Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/4] Remove unnecessary RCU grace period chaining

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Hi,

On 10/18/2022 11:08 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 03:31:20PM +0800, Hou Tao wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 10/17/2022 9:39 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 07:39:42PM +0800, Hou Tao wrote:
SNIP
>>>
>> Thanks for the review. But it seems I missed another possible use case for
>> rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() in bpf memory allocator. The code snippet for
>> free_mem_alloc() is as following:
>>
>> static void free_mem_alloc(struct bpf_mem_alloc *ma)
>> {
>>         /* waiting_for_gp lists was drained, but __free_rcu might
>>          * still execute. Wait for it now before we freeing percpu caches.
>>          */
>>         rcu_barrier_tasks_trace();
>>         rcu_barrier();
>>         free_mem_alloc_no_barrier(ma);
>> }
>>
>> It uses rcu_barrier_tasks_trace() and rcu_barrier() to wait for the completion
>> of pending call_rcu_tasks_trace()s and call_rcu()s. I think it is also safe to
>> check rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() in free_mem_alloc() and if it is true, there is
>> no need to call rcu_barrier().
>>
>> static void free_mem_alloc(struct bpf_mem_alloc *ma)
>> {
>>         /* waiting_for_gp lists was drained, but __free_rcu_tasks_trace()
>>          * or __free_rcu() might still execute. Wait for it now before we
>>          * freeing percpu caches.
>>          */
>>         rcu_barrier_tasks_trace();
>>         if (!rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp())
>>                 rcu_barrier();
>>         free_mem_alloc_no_barrier(ma);
>> }
>>
>> Does the above change look good to you ? If it is, I will post v3 to include the
>> above change and add your Reviewed-by tag.
> Unfortunately, although synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace() implies
> that synchronize_rcu(), there is no relationship between the
> callbacks.  Furthermore, rcu_barrier_tasks_trace() does not imply
> synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace().
Yes. I see. And according to the code, if there is not pending cb,
rcu_barrier_tasks_trace() will returned immediately. It is also possible
rcu_tasks_trace kthread is in the middle of grace period waiting when invoking
rcu_barrier_task_trace(), so rcu_barrier_task_trace() does not imply
synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace().
>
> So the above change really would break things.  Please do not do it.
However I am a little confused about the conclusion. If only considering the
invocations of call_rcu() and call_rcu_tasks_trace() in kernel/bpf/memalloc.c, I
think it is safe to do so, right ? Because if  rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() is
true, there will be no invocation of call_rcu() and rcu_barrier_tasks_trace()
will wait for the completion of pending call_rcu_tasks_trace(). If
rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp(), rcu_barrier_tasks_trace() and rcu_barrier() will do
the job. If considering the invocations of call_rcu() in other places, I think
it is definitely unsafe to do that, right ?
>
> You could use workqueues or similar to make the rcu_barrier_tasks_trace()
> and the rcu_barrier() wait concurrently, though.  This would of course
> require some synchronization.
Thanks for the suggestion. Will check it later.
>
> 							Thanx, Paul
>
>>>> Change Log:
>>>>
>>>> v2:
>>>>  * codify the implication of RCU Tasks Trace grace period instead of
>>>>    assuming for it
>>>>
>>>> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20221011071128.3470622-1-houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Hou Tao (3):
>>>>   bpf: Use rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() in bpf memory allocator
>>>>   bpf: Use rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() in local storage map
>>>>   bpf: Use rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp() for program array freeing
>>>>
>>>> Paul E. McKenney (1):
>>>>   rcu-tasks: Provide rcu_trace_implies_rcu_gp()
>>>>
>>>>  include/linux/rcupdate.h       | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>  kernel/bpf/bpf_local_storage.c | 13 +++++++++++--
>>>>  kernel/bpf/core.c              |  8 +++++++-
>>>>  kernel/bpf/memalloc.c          | 15 ++++++++++-----
>>>>  kernel/rcu/tasks.h             |  2 ++
>>>>  5 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> 2.29.2
>>>>
>>> .




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