On 7/21/22 10:21 AM, Hao Luo wrote:
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 9:15 AM Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx> wrote:
On 7/20/22 5:40 PM, Hao Luo wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 8:45 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx> wrote:
On 7/11/22 5:42 PM, Hao Luo wrote:
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+static void *cgroup_iter_seq_start(struct seq_file *seq, loff_t *pos)
+{
+ struct cgroup_iter_priv *p = seq->private;
+
+ mutex_lock(&cgroup_mutex);
+
+ /* support only one session */
+ if (*pos > 0)
+ return NULL;
This might be okay. But want to check what is
the practical upper limit for cgroups in a system
and whether we may miss some cgroups. If this
happens, it will be a surprise to the user.
Ok. What's the max number of items supported in a single session?
The max number of items (cgroups) in a single session is determined
by kernel_buffer_size which equals to 8 * PAGE_SIZE. So it really
depends on how much data bpf program intends to send to user space.
If each bpf program run intends to send 64B to user space, e.g., for
cpu, memory, cpu pressure, mem pressure, io pressure, read rate, write
rate, read/write rate. Then each session can support 512 cgroups.
Hi Yonghong,
Sorry about the late reply. It's possible that the number of cgroup
can be large, 1000+, in our production environment. But that may not
be common. Would it be good to leave handling large number of cgroups
as follow up for this patch? If it turns out to be a problem, to
alleviate it, we could:
1. tell users to write program to skip a certain uninteresting cgroups.
2. support requesting large kernel_buffer_size for bpf_iter, maybe as
a new bpf_iter flag.
Currently if we intend to support multiple read() for cgroup_iter,
the following is a very inefficient approach:
in seq_file private data structure, remember the last cgroup visited
and for the second read() syscall, do the traversal again (but not
calling bpf program) until the last cgroup and proceed from there.
This is inefficient and probably works. But if the last cgroup is
gone from the hierarchy, that the above approach won't work. One
possibility is to remember the last two cgroups. If the last cgroup
is gone, check the 'next' cgroup based on the one before the last
cgroup. If both are gone, we return NULL.
I suspect in reality, just remembering the last cgroup (or two
cgroups) may not be sufficient. First, I don't want to hold
cgroup_mutex across multiple sessions. I assume it's also not safe to
release cgroup_mutex in the middle of walking cgroup hierarchy.
Supporting multiple read() can be nasty for cgroup_iter.
Right, holding cgroup_mutex across sessions is not bad idea
and I didn't recommend it either.
I am aware of remembering last (one or two) cgroups are not
100% reliable. All other iters have similar issues w.r.t.
across multiple sessions. But the idea is to find a
*reasonable* start for the second and later session.
For example, for task related iter, the previous session
last tid can be remember and the next session starts
with next tid after last tid based on idr. Some old
processes might be gone, but we got a reasonable
approximation. But cgroup is different, holding
the cgroup pointer with an additional reference
across sessions is not good. but holding cgroup
id requires to traverse the cgroup hierarchy
again and this is not efficient. Maybe other people
has a better idea how to do this.
But in any case, if there are additional cgroups not visited,
in the second read(), we should not return NULL which indicates
done with all cgroups. We may return EOPNOTSUPP to indicate there
are missing cgroups due to not supported.
Once users see EOPNOTSUPP which indicates there are missing
cgroups, they can do more filtering in bpf program to avoid
large data volume to user space.
Makes sense. Yonghong, one question to confirm, if the first read()
overflows, does the user still get partial data?
Yes, the first read() and subsequent read()'s will be okay
until user space receives all 8KB data where 8KB is the
kernel buffer size. For example, if user provides 1KB buffer
size, the first 8 read() syscalls will return proper data
to user space.
After that, read() should return
EOPNOTSUPP instead of return 0 where '0' indicates
no more data.
I'll change the return code to EOPNOTSUPP in v4 of this patchset.
To provide a way to truely visit *all* cgroups,
we can either use bpf_iter link_create->flags
to increase the buffer size as your suggested in the above so
user can try to allocate more kernel buffer size. Or implement
proper second read() traversal which I don't have a good idea
how to do it efficiently.
I will try the buffer size increase first. Looks more doable. Do you
mind putting this support as a follow-up?
If we cannot finalize the solution to completely support
arbitrary user output for cgroup_iter, we need to support
EOPNOTSUPP so user knows it should adjust the bpf program
to have less data to user space through seq_file. For example,
they can put data into mmap-ed array map. Please explain
such a limitation and how to workaround this in commit
message clearly.
So yes, to support buffer size increase through link_create
flags or to support a better way to start iteration after 8KB
user data can be a followup.
Hao
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