Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 0/3] libbpf: add better syscall kprobing support

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On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 8:51 AM Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2022-07-06 at 17:41 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > This RFC patch set is to gather feedback about new
> > SEC("ksyscall") and SEC("kretsyscall") section definitions meant to
> > simplify
> > life of BPF users that want to trace Linux syscalls without having to
> > know or
> > care about things like CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_SYSCALL_WRAPPER and related
> > arch-specific
> > vs arch-agnostic __<arch>_sys_xxx vs __se_sys_xxx function names,
> > calling
> > convention woes ("nested" pt_regs), etc. All this is quite annoying
> > to
> > remember and care about as BPF user, especially if the goal is to
> > write
> > achitecture- and kernel version-agnostic BPF code (e.g., things like
> > libbpf-tools, etc).
> >
> > By using SEC("ksyscall/xxx")/SEC("kretsyscall/xxx") user clearly
> > communicates
> > the desire to kprobe/kretprobe kernel function that corresponds to
> > the
> > specified syscall. Libbpf will take care of all the details of
> > determining
> > correct function name and calling conventions.
> >
> > This patch set also improves BPF_KPROBE_SYSCALL (and renames it to
> > BPF_KSYSCALL to match SEC("ksyscall")) macro to take into account
> > CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_SYSCALL_WRAPPER instead of hard-coding whether host
> > architecture is expected to use syscall wrapper or not (which is less
> > reliable
> > and can change over time).
> >
> > It would be great to get feedback about the overall feature, but also
> > I'd
> > appreciate help with testing this, especially for non-x86_64
> > architectures.
> >
> > Cc: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Kenta Tada <kenta.tada@xxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: Hengqi Chen <hengqi.chen@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Andrii Nakryiko (3):
> >   libbpf: improve and rename BPF_KPROBE_SYSCALL
> >   libbpf: add ksyscall/kretsyscall sections support for syscall
> > kprobes
> >   selftests/bpf: use BPF_KSYSCALL and SEC("ksyscall") in selftests
> >
> >  tools/lib/bpf/bpf_tracing.h                   |  44 +++++--
> >  tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c                        | 109
> > ++++++++++++++++++
> >  tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.h                        |  16 +++
> >  tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.map                      |   1 +
> >  tools/lib/bpf/libbpf_internal.h               |   2 +
> >  .../selftests/bpf/progs/bpf_syscall_macro.c   |   6 +-
> >  .../selftests/bpf/progs/test_attach_probe.c   |   6 +-
> >  .../selftests/bpf/progs/test_probe_user.c     |  27 +----
> >  8 files changed, 172 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-)
>
> Hi Andrii,
>
> Looks interesting, I will give it a try on s390x a bit later.
>
> In the meantime just one remark: if we want to create a truly seamless
> solution, we might need to take care of quirks associated with the
> following kernel #defines:
>
> * __ARCH_WANT_SYS_OLD_MMAP (real arguments are in memory)
> * CONFIG_CLONE_BACKWARDS (child_tidptr/tls swapped)
> * CONFIG_CLONE_BACKWARDS2 (newsp/clone_flags swapped)
> * CONFIG_CLONE_BACKWARDS3 (extra arg: stack_size)
>
> or at least document that users need to be careful with mmap() and
> clone() probes. Also, there might be more of that out there, but that's
> what I'm constantly running into on s390x.
>

Tbh, this space seems so messy, that I don't think it's realistic to
try to have a completely seamless solution. As I replied to Alexei, I
didn't have an intention to support compat and 32-bit syscalls, for
example. This seems to be also a quirk that users will have to
discover and handle on their own. In my mind there is always plain
SEC("kprobe") if SEC("ksyscall") gets in a way to handle
compat/32-bit/quirks like the ones you mentioned.

But maybe the right answer is just to not add SEC("ksyscall") at all?


> Best regards,
> Ilya



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