On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 04:46:32PM +0000, Song Liu wrote: > > Urgghhh.. I so really hate BPF specials like this. > > I don't really like this design either. But it does show that LBR can be > very useful in non-PMI scenario. > > > Also, the PMI race > > you describe is because you're doing abysmal layer violations. If you'd > > have used perf_pmu_disable() that wouldn't have been a problem. > > Do you mean instead of disable/enable lbr, we disable/enable the whole > pmu? Yep, that way you're serialized against PMIs. It's what all of the perf core does. > > I'd much rather see a generic 'fake/inject' PMI facility, something that > > works across the board and isn't tied to x86/intel. > > How would that work? Do we have a function to trigger PMI from software, > and then gather the LBR data after the PMI? This does sound like a much > cleaner solution. Where can I find code examples that fake/inject PMI? We don't yet have anything like it; but it would look a little like: void perf_inject_event(struct perf_event *event, struct pt_regs *regs) { struct perf_sample_data data; struct pmu *pmu = event->pmu; unsigned long flags; local_irq_save(flags); perf_pmu_disable(pmu); perf_sample_data_init(&data, 0, 0); /* * XXX or a variant with more _ that starts at the overflow * handler... */ __perf_event_overflow(event, 0, &data, regs); perf_pmu_enable(pmu); local_irq_restore(flags); } But please consider carefully, I haven't... > There is another limitation right now: we need to enable LBR with a > hardware perf event (cycles, etc.). However, unless we use the event for > something else, it wastes a hardware counter. So I was thinking to allow > software event, i.e. dummy event, to enable LBR. Does this idea sound > sane to you? We have a VLBR dummy event, but I'm not sure it does exactly as you want. However, we should also consider Power, which also has the branch stack feature. You can't really make a software event with LBR on, because then it wouldn't be a software event anymore. You'll need some hybrid like thing, which will be yuck and I suspect it needs arch support one way or the other :/