On 3/27/20 5:06 AM, Lorenz Bauer wrote: > However, this behaviour concerns me. It's like Windows not > letting you delete a file while an application has it opened, which just leads > to randomly killing programs until you find the right one. It's frustrating > and counter productive. > > You're taking power away from the operator. In your deployment scenario > this might make sense, but I think it's a really bad model in general. If I am > privileged I need to be able to exercise that privilege. This means that if > there is a netdevice in my network namespace, and I have CAP_NET_ADMIN > or whatever, I can break the association. > > So, to be constructive: I'd prefer bpf_link to replace a netlink attachment and > vice versa. If you need to restrict control, use network namespaces > to hide the devices, instead of hiding the bpffs. I had a thought yesterday along similar lines: bpf_link is about ownership and preventing "accidental" deletes. What's the observability wrt to learning who owns a program at a specific attach point and can that ever be hidden.