Re: APIs for qp-trie //Re: Question: Is it OK to assume the address of bpf_dynptr_kern will be 8-bytes aligned and reuse the lowest bits to save extra info ?

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Hi,

On 6/26/2024 10:06 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 7:12 AM Hou Tao <houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry to resurrect the old thread to continue the discussion of APIs for
>> qp-trie.
>>
>> On 8/26/2023 2:33 AM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 6:12 AM Hou Tao <houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>> SNIP
>>
>>>> updated to allow using dynptr as map key for qp-trie.
>>>>> And that's the problem I just mentioned.
>>>>> PTR_TO_MAP_KEY is special. I don't think we should hack it to also
>>>>> mean ARG_PTR_TO_DYNPTR depending on the first argument (map type).
>>>> Sorry for misunderstanding your reply. But before switch to the kfuncl
>>>> way, could you please point me to some code or function which shows the
>>>> specialty of PTR_MAP_KEY ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Search in kernel/bpf/verifier.c how PTR_TO_MAP_KEY is handled. The
>>> logic assumes that there is associated struct bpf_map * pointer from
>>> which we know fixed-sized key length.
>>>
>>> But getting back to the topic at hand. I vaguely remember discussion
>>> we had, but it would be good if you could summarize it again here to
>>> avoid talking past each other. What is the bpf_map_ops changes you
>>> were thinking to do? How bpf_attr will look like? How BPF-side API for
>>> lookup/delete/update will look like? And then let's go from there?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> .
>> The APIs for qp-trie are composed of the followings 5 parts:
>>
>> (1) map definition for qp-trie
>>
>> The key is bpf_dynptr and map_extra specifies the max length of key.
>>
>> struct {
>>     __uint(type, BPF_MAP_TYPE_QP_TRIE);
>>     __type(key, struct bpf_dynptr);
>>     __type(value, unsigned int);
>>     __uint(map_flags, BPF_F_NO_PREALLOC);
>>     __uint(map_extra, 1024);
>> } qp_trie SEC(".maps");
>>
>> (2) bpf_attr
>>
>> Add key_sz & next_key_sz into anonymous struct to support map with
>> variable-size key. We could add value_sz if the map with variable-size
>> value is supported in the future.
>>
>>         struct { /* anonymous struct used by BPF_MAP_*_ELEM commands */
>>                 __u32           map_fd;
>>                 __aligned_u64   key;
>>                 union {
>>                         __aligned_u64 value;
>>                         __aligned_u64 next_key;
>>                 };
>>                 __u64           flags;
>>                 __u32           key_sz;
>>                 __u32           next_key_sz;
>>         };
>>
>> (3) libbpf API
>>
>> Add bpf_map__get_next_sized_key() to high level APIs.
>>
>> LIBBPF_API int bpf_map__get_next_sized_key(const struct bpf_map *map,
>>                                            const void *cur_key,
>>                                            size_t cur_key_sz,
>>                                            void *next_key, size_t
>> *next_key_sz);
>>
>> Add
>> bpf_map_update_sized_elem()/bpf_map_lookup_sized_elem()/bpf_map_delete_sized_elem()/bpf_map_get_next_sized_key()
>> to low level APIs.
>> These APIs have already considered the case in which map has
>> variable-size value, so there will be no need to add other new APIs to
>> support such case.
>>
>> LIBBPF_API int bpf_map_update_sized_elem(int fd, const void *key, size_t
>> key_sz,
>>                                          const void *value, size_t value_sz,
>>                                          __u64 flags);
>> LIBBPF_API int bpf_map_lookup_sized_elem(int fd, const void *key, size_t
>> key_sz,
>>                                          void *value, size_t *value_sz,
>>                                          __u64 flags);
>> LIBBPF_API int bpf_map_delete_sized_elem(int fd, const void *key, size_t
>> key_sz,
>>                                          __u64 flags);
>> LIBBPF_API int bpf_map_get_next_sized_key(int fd,
>>                                           const void *key, size_t key_sz,
>>                                           void *next_key, size_t
>> *next_key_sz);
> I don't like this approach.
> It looks messy to me and solving one specific case where
> key/value is a blob of bytes.
> In other words it's taking api to pre-BTF days when everything
> was an opaque blob.

I see.
> I think we need a new object dynptr-like that is composable with other types.
> So that user can say that key is
> struct map_key {
>    long foo;
>    dynptr_like array;
>    int bar;
> };
>
> I'm not sure whether the existing bpf_dynptr fits exactly, but it's
> close enough.
> Such dynptr_like object should be able to be used as a string.
> And map should allow two such strings:
> struct map_key {
>    dynptr_like file_name;
>    dynptr_like dir;
> };
>
> and BTF for such map should see distinguish it as two strings
> and not as a single blob of bytes.
> The observability of bpf maps with bpftool should be able to print it.
>
> The use of such api will look the same from bpf prog and from user space.
> bpf prog can do:
>
>  struct map_key key;
>  bpf_dynptr_from_whatever(&key.file_name, ...);
>  bpf_dynptr_from_whatever(&key.dir, ...);
>  bpf_map_lookup_elem(map, &key);
>
> and similar from user space.
> bpf_dynptr_user will be a struct with size and a pointer.
> The existing sys_bpf commands will stay as-is.
> The user space will do:
>
> struct map_key {
>    bpf_dynptr_user file_name;
>    bpf_dynptr_user dir;
> } key;
>
> key.dir.size = 1000;
> key.dir.ptr = malloc(1000);
> ...
> bpf_map_lookup_elem( &key); // existing syscall cmd
>
> In this case sizeof(struct map_key) == sizeof(bpf_dynptr_user) * 2 == 32
>
> Both for bpf prog and for user space.

It seems the idea could be implemented through both hash-table and qp-trie.

For hash-table, firstly we need to keep each offset of these dynptr_like
objects. During update operation, we need to calculate the hash for each
dynptr_like object and combine these hashes into a new hash. During
lookup, we need to compare each dynptr_like object alone to check
whether or not it is the same as the target element.

For qp-trie, we also need to keep the offset for each dynptr_like
object. During update operation, we should marshal the passed key into a
plain blob and save the plain blob in qp-trie. During lookup, we don't
marshal the input key, instead we lookup up the qp-trie by using each
field in the map key step-wise. However for get_next_key operation, we
need to unmarshal the plain blob into a dynptr_like object.

For the two hypothetical implementations above, I think the lookup
performance may be better than qp-trie and its memory usage will not be
bad, so I prefer to support dynptr_like object in hash map key first. WDYT ?


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