Re: Question: Is it OK to assume the address of bpf_dynptr_kern will be 8-bytes aligned and reuse the lowest bits to save extra info ?

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On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:35 PM Hou Tao <houtao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ping ?

Sorry for the delay. I've been on PTO.

> On 8/3/2023 9:28 PM, Hou Tao wrote:
> >
> > On 8/3/2023 9:19 PM, Hou Tao wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am preparing for qp-trie v4, but I need some help on how to support
> >> variable-sized key in bpf syscall. The implementation of qp-trie needs
> >> to distinguish between dynptr key from bpf program and variable-sized
> >> key from bpf syscall. In v3, I added a new dynptr type:
> >> BPF_DYNPTR_TYPE_USER for variable-sized key from bpf syscall [0], so
> >> both bpf program and bpf syscall will use the same type to represent the
> >> variable-sized key, but Andrii thought ptr+size tuple was simpler and
> >> would be enough for user APIs, so in v4, the type of key for bpf program
> >> and syscall will be different. One way to handle that is to add a new
> >> parameter in .map_lookup_elem()/.map_delete_elem()/.map_update_elem() to
> >> tell whether the key comes from bpf program or syscall or introduce new
> >> APIs in bpf_map_ops for variable-sized key related syscall, but I think
> >> it will introduce too much churn. Considering that the size of
> >> bpf_dynptr_kern is 8-bytes aligned, so I think maybe I could reuse the
> >> lowest 1-bit of key pointer to tell qp-trie whether or not it is a
> >> bpf_dynptr_kern or a variable-sized key pointer from syscall. For
> >> bpf_dynptr_kern, because it is 8B-aligned, so its lowest bit must be 0,
> >> and for variable-sized key from syscall, I could allocated a 4B-aligned
> >> pointer and setting the lowest bit as 1, so qp-trie can distinguish
> >> between these two types of pointer. The question is that I am not sure
> >> whether the idea above is a good one or not. Does it sound fragile ? Or
> >> is there any better way to handle that ?

Let's avoid bit hacks. They're not extensible and should be used
only in cases where performance matters a lot or memory constraints are extreme.

ptr/sz tuple from syscall side sounds the simplest.
I agree with Andrii exposing the dynptr concept to user space
and especially as part of syscall is unnecessary.
We already have LPM as a precedent. Maybe we can do the same here?
No need to add new sys_bpf commands.

If the existing bpf_map_lookup_elem() helper doesn't fit qp-tree we can
use new kfuncs from bpf prog and LPM-like map accessors from syscall.





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