Hi, Since we fixed the idle timeout for the Logitech MX1000, everything was fine. However, since i moved to a freshly installed new machine, at the same time upgrading to bluez-3.36, i have another mouse connect problem. The mouse does not connect initially (e.g. after boot), or, to put it more correct: it connects, but there is no input device created and it gets disconnected again very soon. To get an input device, i need to issue dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest="org.bluez" \ /org/bluez/input/pointing1 org.bluez.input.Device.Connect (which should not be necessary). As long as the mouse is trying to connect (before dbus-send), i get this with apitest -l: RemoteDeviceConnected - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D RemoteNameUpdated - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D Logitech MX1000 mouse RemoteDeviceDisconnected - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D RemoteDeviceConnected - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D RemoteNameUpdated - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D Logitech MX1000 mouse RemoteDeviceDisconnected - /org/bluez/hci0: 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D "hcid -x -n -d" shows: root@susi:~# hcid -x -n -d hcid[28609]: Bluetooth HCI daemon hcid[28609]: Enabling debug information hcid[28609]: Parsing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf failed: No such file or directory hcid[28609]: Registering experimental manager interface hcid[28609]: Starting SDP server hcid[28609]: Adding rec : 0xb7faeef0 hcid[28609]: with handle : 0x1 hcid[28609]: Adding rec : 0xb7faf0c0 hcid[28609]: with handle : 0x0 hcid[28609]: Service classes 0x00 hcid[28609]: Loading plugins /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins hcid[28609]: /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins/libnetlink.so hcid[28609]: Starting experimental netlink support hcid[28609]: Failed to find Bluetooth netlink family hcid[28609]: Can't init plugin /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins/libnetlink.so hcid[28609]: /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins/libnetwork.so hcid[28609]: Parsing /etc/bluetooth/network.conf failed: No such file or directory hcid[28609]: Config options: InterfacePrefix=bnep%d, PANU_Script=(null), GN_Script=(null), NAP_Script=(null), GN_Interface=pan0, NAP_Interface=pan1, Security=true hcid[28609]: bridge pan0 created hcid[28609]: Registered manager path:/org/bluez/network hcid[28609]: Registered server path:/org/bluez/network/nap hcid[28609]: Registered server path:/org/bluez/network/gn hcid[28609]: Registered server path:/org/bluez/network/panu hcid[28609]: name network uuid 00001115-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb hcid[28609]: name network uuid 00001116-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb hcid[28609]: name network uuid 00001117-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb hcid[28609]: Registering service object: network (/org/bluez/service_network) hcid[28609]: /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins/libinput.so hcid[28609]: Parsing /etc/bluetooth/input.conf failed: No such file or directory hcid[28609]: Registered input manager path:/org/bluez/input hcid[28609]: Created input device: /org/bluez/input/keyboard0 hcid[28609]: Created input device: /org/bluez/input/pointing1 hcid[28609]: name input uuid 00001124-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb hcid[28609]: Registering service object: input (/org/bluez/service_input) hcid[28609]: /usr/lib/bluetooth/plugins/libserial.so hcid[28609]: Registered manager path:/org/bluez/serial hcid[28609]: name serial uuid 00001101-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB hcid[28609]: name serial uuid 00001103-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB hcid[28609]: Registering service object: serial (/org/bluez/service_serial) hcid[28609]: HCI dev 0 registered hcid[28609]: HCI dev 0 already up hcid[28609]: Device hci0 has been added hcid[28609]: Starting security manager 0 hcid[28609]: Device hci0 has been activated hcid[28609]: Creating device /hci0/dev_00_07_61_99_AF_D6 hcid[28609]: Creating device /hci0/dev_00_12_EE_23_CE_EA hcid[28609]: child 28618 exited hcid[28609]: child 28621 exited hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Default passkey agent (:1.1155, /org/kde/kbluetooth_1234) registered hcid[28609]: Default authorization agent (:1.1155, /org/kde/kbluetooth_auth_1234) registered hcid[28609]: Service register request hcid[28609]: Look ahead attr id : 1 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 0 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x1 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x1 attrValueLength : 5 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 8 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 8 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x4 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x4 attrValueLength : 19 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 30 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 30 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x5 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x5 attrValueLength : 5 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 38 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 38 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x9 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x9 attrValueLength : 10 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 51 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 51 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x100 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x100 attrValueLength : 18 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 72 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 72 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x101 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x101 attrValueLength : 30 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 105 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, sequenceLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 105 hcid[28609]: DTD of attrId : 9 Attr id : 0x303 hcid[28609]: Attr id : 0x303 attrValueLength : 16 hcid[28609]: Extract PDU, seqLength: 124 localExtractedLength: 124 hcid[28609]: Successful extracting of Svc Rec attributes hcid[28609]: Couldn't find record for : 0x10000 hcid[28609]: Adding rec : 0xb7fb3720 hcid[28609]: with handle : 0x10000 hcid[28609]: Service classes 0x10 hcid[28609]: Sending rsp. status 0 hcid[28609]: Bytes Sent : 9 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 17 hcid[28609]: Incoming connection on PSM 19 ####### dbus-send here ####### hcid[28609]: New input device 00:07:61:3F:1B:6D (Logitech MX1000 mouse) I had also rumors that this happens with openSUSE 11.0 which has bluez-3.32, but i need to confirm that. Anything else needed to debug this? I can reproduce it easily with dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest="org.bluez" \ /org/bluez/input/pointing1 org.bluez.input.Device.Disconnect The mouse will not reconnect until I issue a "Connect" again. Thanks, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried R&D Team Mobile Devices | "Any ideas, John?" SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nürnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." 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