An excellent distro for speakup users to avoid. Anyone foolish enough to try will discover the most difficult task with that distribution will be to get the screen reader working. I know of three users who got gentoo installed on much earlier versions and I have decided to never touch this distro again in this life. Maybe in one of my next lives if I come out sighted I might do something with gentoo. Maybe anaconda-kickstart can install gentoo with speakup working but I'd not like to bet any money on that. I suspect pencil whipping happened with accessibility testing of the latest version if accessibility testing happened at all. Pencil whipping happens when the kernel is checked for speakup and if found passes the test. Real accessibility testing happens when a system is booted up and speakup is enabled after booting with documented procedures. Maybe speakup is also enabled during boot with documented procedures as well. The number of seconds until the boot prompt comes up on particular hardware would be part of such documentation for an accessibility tester. In either case, gentoo would start speaking what comes up on the screen at least at the root prompt if not before. Failure on that level and accessibility test fails. I spent over a week trying to get gentoo talking and couldn't do it. Maybe it needs the C.I.A. with some of John Yew's enhanced interrogation techniques to get that done. -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blinux-list+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxx.