I could do an install of debian with standard mate stuff on it. Then
login and sysctl stop lightdm once logged in and then sysctl disable
lightdm. I think it may be interesting to find if that has the desired
effect.
-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote:
> Okay, so a few days ago, I did a clean CLI-only install of Debian
> Bulls-eye, which I've since fully upgraded to Debian Testing. Everything
> is working well in the command-line, but I'm having issues with
> getting Orca to talk.
>
> I have no interest in running a full desktop and my goal is to, as
> needed, run a single GUI application(usually a web browser such as
> Firefox or Seamonkey) with Orca and a lightweight window manager(I've
> been using flwm).
>
> I've been using a script that was posted on the audio games forum by
> Storm Dragon, which worked flawlessly on the Knoppix install I
> replaced with Debian and via a Knoppix live DVD environment, but when
> I run the script on my Debian install, I get two problems:
>
> 1. Orca refuses to talk.
>
> 2. I lose the ability to use alt+Fx or ctrl+alt+Fx to switch to ttyx.
>
> Based on some trouble shooting advice I got from a previous thread on
> this issue, I think the issue might be with Speech Dispatcher. I've
> tested with both Firefox(latest ESR packaged from Debian) and
> Seamonkey(downloaded from the Seamonkey website and run from my home
> directory, and best I can tell, The web browser launches and closing it
> normally drops me back to the console that ran the script, Orca and
> At-spi are loading, and in fact, seem to stay in memory until I log out
> of the console that ran the script, but spd-say seems to hang whenever I
> try running it from my Debian install, though even on the Knoppix
> LiveDVD I'm using to web browse while I try to figure out what's up
> with the Debian install, spd-say doesn't actually produce sound, but
> it doesn't hang.
>
> I did try installing Pulseaudio as someone suggested as well as purging
> and reinstalling Orca and xserver-xorg and their dependencies, but that
> didn't fix things, and if installing Pulseaudio had worked, I'd be
> wondering how to cut it out as I've been getting by with just Alsa and
> libpulseaudio0 for years and don't see the point of installing a
> sizeable sound server if I don't need it.
>
> I'm not sure if its relevant to the problem, especially since it only
> shows up in the output some of the time, but here is some of what
> startx prints to stderr some of the time:
>
> TIMEOUT: something has hung. Aborting.
>
> File "/usr/bin/orca", line 285, in <module>
> sys.exit(main())
> File "/usr/bin/orca", line 282, in main
> return orca.main()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 818, in main
> init(pyatspi.Registry)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 613, in init
> loadUserSettings()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 436, in
> loadUserSettings
> speech.init()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 90, in init
> _initSpeechServer(moduleName,
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speech.py", line 71, in
> _initSpeechServer
> _speechserver = factory.SpeechServer.getSpeechServer(speechServerInfo)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speechdispatcherfactory.py",
> line 110, in getSpeechServer
> return SpeechServer._getSpeechServer(thisId)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speechdispatcherfactory.py",
> line 102, in _getSpeechServer
> cls(serverId)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speechdispatcherfactory.py",
> line 161, in __init__
> self._init()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/speechdispatcherfactory.py",
> line 172, in _init
> self._client = client = speechd.SSIPClient('Orca', component=self._id)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 579, in __init__
> self._initialize_connection(user, name, component)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 602,
> in _initialize_connection
> self._conn.send_command('SET', Scope.SELF, 'CLIENT_NAME', full_name)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 327,
> in send_command
> code, msg, data = self._recv_response()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd/client.py", line 295,
> in _recv_response
> self._ssip_reply_semaphore.acquire()
> File "/usr/lib/python3.11/threading.py", line 472, in acquire
> self._cond.wait(timeout)
> File "/usr/lib/python3.11/threading.py", line 320, in wait
> waiter.acquire()
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/orca.py", line 680, in timeout
> debug.printStack(debug.LEVEL_SEVERE)
> File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/debug.py", line 196, in printStack
> traceback.print_stack(None, 100, debugFile)
>
>
> And here's the script I've been using:
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/env bash
>
> if [[ $# -eq 0 ]]; then
> echo "Usage $0 \"program name\" optional arguments."
> exit 1
> fi
>
> # Get the number of the current terminal
> term=$(tty)
> term="${term##*tty}"
>
> if [[ "$term" =~ ^[1-9]+$ ]]; then
> echo
> # Uncomment to suspend Fenrir while the given application runs.
> # echo -n "setting set screen#suspendingScreen=$term" | socat -
> UNIX-CLIENT:/tmp/fenrirscreenreader-deamon.sock
> fi
>
> programName="$1"
> shift
>
> # Accessibility variables
> export ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1
> export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge
> export GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY=1
> export QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1
> export QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON=1
> export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3
>
> # Uncomment to use xbindkeys
> # command xbindkeys &
>
> exec flwm &
> # Try orca, but use orca -replace if it doesn't work.
> pgrep orca || command orca &
> command "$programName" $@
>
> # Uncomment to resume Fenrir after X closes.
> # echo -n "setting set screen#suspendingScreen=" | socat -
> UNIX-CLIENT:/tmp/fenrirscreenreader-deamon.sock
>
> exit 0|
>
>
> For what it's worth, I'm using espeakup as my console screen reader on
> Debian and espeak-ng as my synthesizer. On Knoppix, I'm still using
> espeak-ng, but the console screenreader is sbl on Knoppix.
>
> Hoping I can find a solution to this issue as I really don't want to
> return to using Knoppix as my daily driver as it limits me to a
> outdated, 32-bit kernel and while I haven't yet been able to test GUI
> performance because of this issue, I've already noticed huge performance
> improvements with some of the CLI tools I use, so I'm hoping that
> completing the transition will breath new life into this ancient
> desktop of mine.
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.freelists.org/list/orca
> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>
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