> It should be no surprise that if you download some Linux distribution which has no accessibility community, it isn't accessible. Haha, well, it should be, but it's true we're not quite there yet. I think sharing accessibility information depends on the specific case. There are countless distributions that add very little value, for us often none if it's about appearance tweaks, and even that is often aimed at people with very special needs. Mobilizing the community for such cases is... I'd say a bit overkill, one can of course open an issue if they find the distro interesting for them, that definitely should be done since the author very likely doesn't even know blind people use Linux in the first place. Another case, though, are the mainstream distributions, potentially interesting for broader audience among us. Vanilla OS is a great example of that. They're building a very interesting, pretty innovative project, and while I didn't try the distro just yet, it's something I'd be definitely willing to give few hours. Qubes OS, the same thing, this is already an established project, and the developers were even considering accessibility tweaks according to some of the opened issues. Unfortunately, I didn't see anyone even pinging the issues from time to time, speak of donating them. Indeed, inaccessibility is a phenomenon we will certainly be bumping into on many occassions. But at the same time, staying silent about it is also the best way to make it stay that way. Things are hardly going to move, unless we raise our voices and speak for ourselves. Note, by speaking up, I don't mean any hardly insistive communication. Just being active and kindly asking for improvements should be enough to make developers aware that: a. We exist b. We're here and are interested in the product Of course, just active communication is not going to automagically solve everything, especially difficult problems like inaccessible installers, requiring a lot of work. But it gives us a much better starting point, and often, accessibility is not even that terribly hard to implement. Best regards Rastislav Dňa 18. 3. 2023 o 18:18 Linux for blind general discussion napísal(a): > It should be no surprise that if you download some Linux distribution > which has no accessibility community, it isn't accessible. > > This sort of message keeps coming up on mailing lists with various > distributions, with similar results. > > If you want accessibility, you basically have to keep to the > distributions for which someone is looking after the > accessibility-related packages, and preferably for which there's a > community of screen reader users. > > For "mainstream" (i.e., not specifically accessibility-oriented) > distributions, it probably means Arch, Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu for the > most part at this point - with apologies in advance for whatever I've > inadvertently left out. > > On 18/3/23 08:09, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Don't download this installer. Its package list has neither espeak nor >> orca in it and that means if you do make the download mistake you're going >> to need a sighted install and maybe won't find espeak or orca in their >> repositories either. >> >> >> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in >> defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) >> >> . >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list