Actually, that will be true only when sighted people don't use paper
print. I'm very glad I have Braille devices I can use to read a great
deal of material that hasn't been put into hardcopy, but it is often
much better for me to read those fine Braille volumes. Plus, their
batteries don't die. Yes, Braille paper ages and dies, too, but not
usually in the way electronic Braille devices can do it.
Al
On 8/14/22 19:26, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
I mean, we don't have to have volumes of Braille anymore, just a Braille
Display, which work great with BRLTTY.
Devin Prater
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:21 PM Linux for blind general discussion <
blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I echo this attitude concern, but for a different reason.
who gets to decide what bodies deserve a place at the table?
because of a vascular accident in an eye surgery, I experience a brain
anomaly where certain frequencies stimulate the dizzy centres of my brain.
allot of those frequencies happen in poorly designed software speech
configurations for Linux.
Meaning, because little effort has been made to give choices for Linux
speech in the gui, if I wanted to use this, I would have to choose between
a Linux computer and hospitalization.
compare this with apple hardware.
I recently aquired a mid 2012 macbook pro which, because of how the
voiceover sound is produced is perfectly safe for my use..and I can
still run only one Mac os off from the last pre m.1 systems.
i have an associate in my office running their business on a 2011 macbook
pro.
Indeed climate change, landfill issues, available resources in terms of
training and access all over the world.
And, for many how their body works mandates choices.
There was a time when one of the great things about Linux was that it
could be used to breathe new life into older hardware. especially
helpful in non-western countries where getting the fastest car on the
road was costly.
If your attitude was the rule though, those folks regardless of abilities
might never get computers at all.
take your attitude and say substitute braille.
Statistically less than 10% of the blindness community are braille
users,
meaning the majority do not use it, or even learn it if newly blinded.
so, its unfortunate some blind people are still stuck needing volumes and
volumes of braille, but to expect the world to confirm to such a limited
use language etc.
Speaking personally, especially given how flexible Linux is supposed to
be?
deciding some have no place at your gui table is little different than
deciding those who are visible minorities, no matter the location, have no
place at the table either.
Karen
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022, Chris Brannon wrote:
Matt Campbell <mattcampbell@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
I took this position in 2000, but for the last decade or more, access
to a
GUI has been widely available to blind people at no extra cost. (If
there
are blind people today who are truly stuck on old hardware with no
accessible GUI, that's unfortunate, but I think this is one case where
the
best solution is charity, not expecting the rest of the world to
accommodate
this situation forever. That's no different than for sighted people
stuck on
very old hardware.)
I'm sorry, but this is a very irresponsible attitude, given the impact
of climate change. And now on top of that, the world is coping with
supply chain issues. "Chuck it in a landfill because it won't run the
latest Electron app" is deeply unacceptable.
I do agree with you about the importance of GUI accessibility, even
though I only use one when circumstances force me to it. I'm somewhat
optimistic about the recent news.
-- Chris
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