I mean, we don't have to have volumes of Braille anymore, just a Braille Display, which work great with BRLTTY. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:21 PM Linux for blind general discussion < blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I echo this attitude concern, but for a different reason. > who gets to decide what bodies deserve a place at the table? > because of a vascular accident in an eye surgery, I experience a brain > anomaly where certain frequencies stimulate the dizzy centres of my brain. > allot of those frequencies happen in poorly designed software speech > configurations for Linux. > Meaning, because little effort has been made to give choices for Linux > speech in the gui, if I wanted to use this, I would have to choose between > a Linux computer and hospitalization. > compare this with apple hardware. > I recently aquired a mid 2012 macbook pro which, because of how the > voiceover sound is produced is perfectly safe for my use..and I can > still run only one Mac os off from the last pre m.1 systems. > i have an associate in my office running their business on a 2011 macbook > pro. > Indeed climate change, landfill issues, available resources in terms of > training and access all over the world. > And, for many how their body works mandates choices. > There was a time when one of the great things about Linux was that it > could be used to breathe new life into older hardware. especially > helpful in non-western countries where getting the fastest car on the > road was costly. > If your attitude was the rule though, those folks regardless of abilities > might never get computers at all. > take your attitude and say substitute braille. > Statistically less than 10% of the blindness community are braille > users, > meaning the majority do not use it, or even learn it if newly blinded. > so, its unfortunate some blind people are still stuck needing volumes and > volumes of braille, but to expect the world to confirm to such a limited > use language etc. > Speaking personally, especially given how flexible Linux is supposed to > be? > deciding some have no place at your gui table is little different than > deciding those who are visible minorities, no matter the location, have no > place at the table either. > Karen > > > > On Sun, 14 Aug 2022, Chris Brannon wrote: > > > Matt Campbell <mattcampbell@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > >> I took this position in 2000, but for the last decade or more, access > to a > >> GUI has been widely available to blind people at no extra cost. (If > there > >> are blind people today who are truly stuck on old hardware with no > >> accessible GUI, that's unfortunate, but I think this is one case where > the > >> best solution is charity, not expecting the rest of the world to > accommodate > >> this situation forever. That's no different than for sighted people > stuck on > >> very old hardware.) > > > > I'm sorry, but this is a very irresponsible attitude, given the impact > > of climate change. And now on top of that, the world is coping with > > supply chain issues. "Chuck it in a landfill because it won't run the > > latest Electron app" is deeply unacceptable. > > > > I do agree with you about the importance of GUI accessibility, even > > though I only use one when circumstances force me to it. I'm somewhat > > optimistic about the recent news. > > > > -- Chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list