That or insufficient memory to handle web page browsing in nvda could do that. Last time I used jaws the Navy had upgraded me to 6gb of memory just to have jaws run at something approaching normal speed on its system. For a long time I had a much smaller memory footprint than that. On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > These are valid points. But what I get from Windows: a mostly clean > > accessibility experience (mostly thanks to NVDA and community support), and > > a good many apps designed by and for the blind. > > > Having been on a laptop recently just to test a website, I can say that > although improvements have been made that make NVDA easier to use, its virtual > buffering makes things harder to use, not easier, and the accessibility > experience I found far less clean. This laptop I was on was fairly new, and I > still had major problems just browsing because the whole thing was made slower > by the screen reader having to copy the page from the website. Even worse > since it has to infinite loop over the original and compare it with its copy > in case anything ever changes. Next I must point out that although I am blind, > I have never fallen into the category of "the blind." This is a point I failed > to make early on in this thread, although I make it here. I, AM, NOT, THE, > BLIND, I, AM HUMAN! I shout it from the rooftops. I, AM, HUMAN, it's only my > eyes that don't work so well. I will also point out that some years ago, I > found myself running that horrible beast of a non-operating system just to > play two games and to use a twitter client that was made for as you so > eloquently put it, "the blind." Once I saw that this was all I was using it > for, I tossed that virtual machine into the trash faster than you can say > "toss that virtual machine into the trash." I found that it certainly wasn't > worth my time and energy to keep it running just for that frivolous activity > that I could do on the host Linux OS with just a little more effort, and the > Twitter website really isn't so bad that it needs "for the blind" treatment. > > > I mean I have Google Chrome set as my default browser right now. And I can > > uninstall a lot. There's no Candy Crush Saga, and I just uninstalled Dizney > > Plus. > > > > What? How did you do all that? I got help trying to get some of that crap > > gone, and it WILL, NOT, GO, not even on 10. OK I think 3 of us were able to > > wrestle Disney Plus off the thing, but getting rid of that Microsoft browser > > is a no-go, along with many other things that just didn't have the > > appropriate uninstall or remove type of buttons, only a link that took us to > > a help page about how to uninstall software. But the crap simply won't go, > > no matter how hard we tried to get it gone. Did they fix this in 11 with the > > default browser thing? There was much talk around the interwebs about the > > browser in 11 being stuck, and it taking hours to try to figure out how to > > change the default, and then once enough people figured out how to change > > it, Microsoft went and fixed them so they got the Microsoft browser back and > > couldn't change it anymore. This is what happens when you let a single > > company with a known history of bad business control every aspect of your > > computer. They can do what t > hey want with it, no matter how much of a power user you think you are. > > Windows Terminal exists. They even have a Windows package manager. But if > > you don't like that one, you use Scoop, or Chocolatey, which also have some > > Linux apps and command line programs. > > OK I'll give you that cmd is still a thing, and believe it or not, you will > > find many articles around the interwebs that tell you to open up cmd to do > > this or that. And I guess they've made it somewhat more useful again? Last > > time I used anything like that, they were taking things away from it to make > > it less useful, not adding choices to make it more usable. I pretty much > > lost it when they took move away for example. > > > > That's still true. But you'd just install Thunderbird wouldn't you? It > > works even better on windows than Linux because the accessibility bus is > > faster to load all those messages into its buffers. > > > > > Um, no. If Google Chrome is any indication, it would be slower, as it's > loading all that stuff into buffers that are not needed and take time. One > banking website that I tested felt quite sluggish on a rather new laptop. I > can do my banking much much faster here on this 8-year-old all-in-one computer > than I was able to do on that laptop. I felt like I was slogging through mud > using that thing. I'm sure email in Thunderbird would be just as bad. It used > to feel sluggish here as well, but this has been greatly improved now. I no > longer notice any sluggishness here, even on less resource packed machines, > even in large folders, which I will admit used to be a high pain point, not > because of the accessibility bus itself, but because of event floods that have > been largely fixed. > > ~Kyle > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list