Re: Dragonfm questions/NNN query

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Sure, my tweaks are  and nothing too major, just added in missing
formats for decompressing files since I've run into a lot of
tarballs/gzip files for example.these:

application/zip=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
application/gzip=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
application/bzip2=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}
application/tar=atool --force --quiet --extract-to={1} {0}

That takes care of the tar/bzip/gzip files such as tar.bz and tar.gz and
I've not got a list of common file formats however, so if there's any I
missed they can be added into the config.
Thoughts on having atool as a dependency for the AUR build?

On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 04:53:32PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> glad to hear that you like it :).
> 
> maybe you can send me your tweaks, then i can add them into master. so the
> settings could raise to be more complete.
> 
> there is currently no toggle for hidden files, you can just set this in
> settings.conf
> wait, I will add a toggle for you.
> 
> cheers chrys
> 
> Am 09.04.22 um 16:27 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > That works great, I can open up my files in whatever app I like. I've made some tweaks to the config to account for tar/bzip/gzip files and other common archive formats as well, not sure what else I'm missing. This is like a way more useable Text Nautlius/Caja and it is flat out awesome now.
> > 
> > One question. How would I set a shortcut to show/hide hidden folders and
> > files?
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 03:04:13PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > > its me again, the placeholder "{0}" is not longer needed if the file path
> > > has to be at the end of the open with command, but still could be used if
> > > the file path is needed somewhere in the middle.
> > > so now it should be enought to enter
> > > gedit
> > > 
> > > cheers chrys
> > > 
> > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:58 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > Howdy,
> > > > 
> > > > thanks, well we can improve it step by step. Its very flexible and very
> > > > easy to extend (depends on skills to create symbolic links loool)
> > > > anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > the syntax is quite simple. just enter the how you would open it from
> > > > shell but replace the filename with {0} (this is a placeholder for the
> > > > complete filepath)
> > > > for gedit this would just be
> > > > gedit {0}
> > > > for me gedit opens then with the selected file. this currently only
> > > > works for files. if your cursor is on an folder, it opens the path
> > > > currently in dragonFM.
> > > > to me more comfortable, i could just add the {0} if it does not exist at
> > > > the end.
> > > > 
> > > > cheers chrys
> > > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > Indeed it does. Thanks, DFM is a really neat bit of software.
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, how does the open with work? If I load up, say a text file and
> > > > > hit open with... it gives me cat {0} | less
> > > > > 
> > > > > What's the syntax for that one? I tried typing in Gedit and got nothing,
> > > > > tried Pluma, tried nano, no luck
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:30:48PM +0200, Linux for blind general
> > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ok this time it was gits fault. it didnt realize that i changed
> > > > > > the symlink
> > > > > > from the absolute to an relative path.
> > > > > > so i hat to remove commit and reacreate commit :).
> > > > > > now it works for real :).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:17 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > hmm still some issues,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > let me take a deeper look
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:09 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > it should be fixed my friend. Sorry for that ^^.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 13:59 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > > > The simlink points to your home directory and shows up as a
> > > > > > > > > broken simlink if I check. It's shown up as a symbolic link,
> > > > > > > > > broken, pointing to /home/chrys/dragonfm/src...the .py script
> > > > > > > > > that should be there there's a simlink instead.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > OnSat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:35:49PM +0200, Linux for blind general
> > > > > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > i cant reproduce this here.
> > > > > > > > > > I just did a look at git, looks like all files
> > > > > > > > > > are pushed correctly.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > maybe a collision with an work in progress commit, wrong
> > > > > > > > > > branch or python
> > > > > > > > > > cache?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > i guess it must be a local issue, setup.py and PKGBUILD work
> > > > > > > > > > as expected
> > > > > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 13:18 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if that broke but on my end that's throwing up
> > > > > > > > > > > a no such file for the open shell with... .py one when I
> > > > > > > > > > > do sudo ./setup.py with a fresh install and doing in the
> > > > > > > > > > > manual way. Not back on my Arch box right now so can't
> > > > > > > > > > > test the pkgbuild though....but to replicate clone the
> > > > > > > > > > > latest url and do sudo ./setup.py and watch for the
> > > > > > > > > > > unable to copy error
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:05:18PM +0200, Linux for
> > > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > i just add an "open entry with shell" action.
> > > > > > > > > > > > currently assigned to ctrl + o.
> > > > > > > > > > > > when you select a file, press ctrl + o an input box
> > > > > > > > > > > > appears. there is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > default value (configureable in settings.conf section folder key
> > > > > > > > > > > > openWithShellInitValue). pressing enter executes the
> > > > > > > > > > > > command then. {0} is
> > > > > > > > > > > > the placeholder for the current selected file.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > do you want
> > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + o for open
> > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + w for open with?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > should i swap them or keep it as it is?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 12:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > i just provided an PKGBUILD for dragonFM and uploaded it to AUR.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > its currently a git package, as dragonFM does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not yet seen any stable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release ;).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > name: dragonfm-git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > url: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dragonfm-git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > if you already installed it using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > setup.py you might need to remove
> > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicting files from your filesystem fist. (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > setup.py does bypass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the package manager)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > i added an wildcard mime type. if there is no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > specific entry in the mime
> > > > > > > > > > > > > list, the xdg-open pops up now. this might be more helpful.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > well, i will implement the open with for you. give me a second.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > i will assign it to ctrl + o and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > move the open action to ctrl + m.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 12:25 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure I can test the pkgbuild once I'm back on my Arch box
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that input box works fine. I'll suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+O as the shortcut for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it so you got Enter/Ctrl+M to open (o maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > move open with to ctrl+M and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > see how that works?), and a ctrl+O for open with?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AAh I didnt know about just exiting the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shell. I assumed that'd close
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the tab. My first thought was alright, fg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragonfm to get back to it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11:13:25AM +0200, Linux for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK let me  create a PKGBUILD for dragonfm-git
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I'm poking at the config trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replicate NNN's open with and not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // having much luck. Is that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a case of remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to drop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a shell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and doing what I need?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does this look like? just a input dialog to enter any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > command with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current selected element as parameter?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // On that note...is there a way once I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // easily without relaunching it from the shell?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, just exit the shell (type "exit"), you will be back in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragonfm then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 10:30 schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for blind general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm poking at the config trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replicate NNN's open with and not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a shell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing what I need?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On that note...is there a way once I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit F4, to get back to dragonfm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easily without relaunching it from the shell?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Linux for blind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is DragonFM in the Arch repo?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently its not. If you like it, i can put it into AUR.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Linux for blind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? Am trying to get it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with yay from this side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:26:15AM +0200, Linux
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok then i keep that alt + u.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That seems to work better, but does the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paytrion link you sent in another message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have the info on changing the shortcuts as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well i changed the shortcuts in master. So there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is no need to change them by others anymore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or what info you mean exactly?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is now at least a basic documentation :).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.2022 um 02:15 schrieb Linux for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay if it's just alt+u then yes keep it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that way. That seems to work better, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does the Paytrion link you sent in another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > message have the info on changing the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts as well?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:28:30PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0200, Linux for blind general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i installed Mate terminal for testing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok this is changed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about ^[u i was wrong. its just alt + u
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so a single ^ is Ctrl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the sequence ^[ is alt if it is followed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by an letter. if not, its escape
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + alt + x would be ^[^C
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back to Alt + u, this worked for me,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should i change the shortcut in any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in section [mime] you see how to open an file.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in section [compress] and [decompress]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can configure the de-/compressing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i changed this for you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compress (the word compress bevore the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > equal is just the lable shown in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > context menu):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {0} = Source: list of files separated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by space with absolut filepath
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {1} = Destination:  archive name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compress=apack -q {1} {0}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decompress (for zipfiles, you can just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > copy that for any other format
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supported by atool and change the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application/zip to whatever mimetype you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to unzip):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {0} = Source: file to decompress
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {1} = Destination: folder with archive content
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application/zip=atool -f -q --extract-to={1} {0}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just pushed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.22
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um 22:11
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure thing. Here''s what I whipped upp real quick
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+alt+x for extract instead of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trl+alt+u (which doesnt seem to work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Mate?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to replace unzip and tar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with atool, how NNN handles it since
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a lot nicer to have one tool
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that handles a ton of formats
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having to hunt down 10 differrent programs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aside from that, not made any other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to the .conf file though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a neat little program, though
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just in case I missed any, go
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and use DragonFM with a terminal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator and see what you can come
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with for shortcuts? I'm on a laptop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently so that kind of hinders
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what I can do shortcuts wise however
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:03:27PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0200, Linux for blind general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, F123 was mostly TTY only.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the bindings are set with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that in mind :). The project
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted to momic GUI shortcuts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for most parts.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The colliding shortcuts can be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed very easy in settings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you hand me a list with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts you want to have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed, i change them for you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right in master.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As F123 is no more, TTY compat.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not matter that much
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anymore to me and we can improve
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in terminal emulators (most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of them have more capabilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than TTY in any way, for example
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > konsole ( the KDE terminal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator has special escape
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sequences for shift arrow)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.2022 um 21:53
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb Linux for blind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, DragonFM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work well out of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > box with a terminal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator, mostly down to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts with keys like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F10. Yes I can redefine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them, but that's kind of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something Im slwly slowly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poking at. I'm unable to get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mate-terminal to recognize a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+alt patern hough
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whereas a TTY works fine so,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsure if you need to test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dragonfm on terminal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulators with a desktop?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind of a shame since I like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how easy Dragon is to use vs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MC or Ranger or NNN (my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current favorite one that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't have keyboard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts) though
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09:36:28PM +0200, Linux
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for blind general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well there is a context
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu  ( dragonFM calls
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it Details, because it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also shows file
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > properties like size,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mime and a list of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available actions) with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all available options by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressing F10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some actions are only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available for given mime
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > types like compress
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current only for zip and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tar, others could be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addad very easy. By
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > default dragonfm does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not use atool but unzip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > command for zip files
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and tar of course for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tar those need to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > installed or confured to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use something else.  (I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can give you a more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > detailed information how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to configure those stuff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are interested
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DragonFM reads the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Escape sequences from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stdin to detect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts (like almost
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other CLI
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some important basic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation help (we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should add the shortcuts
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as comments to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > settings file lol )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^ = CTRL
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ = Alt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uppercase letter = shift + letter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lowercase letter = just the letter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An other example:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^[u translates as ctrl + alt + u
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some specials like arrow keys or escape.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Escape is translated by ^[
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (by the way many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts are similar to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other graphical file
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managers BUT shift +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrow for mark files is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different as i could not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > figure how to read this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from an escape sequence,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because there is no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uppercase arrow *smile*)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Development was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sponsored by F123
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project. Today known as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stormux. Sadly i did not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wire a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation but you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can ask me everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you want to know :).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.2022 um
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18:41 schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for blind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I gave it a shot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it feels logical
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and well laid out,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUt I'm struggling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on a few things. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have it going and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to unzip an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archive from within
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. In NNN I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just do that and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work with atool. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't seem to find
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the keys to start
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extracting an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archive or how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dragonfm handles
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that at all, Ive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only found unextract
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with ^(U in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config, which I've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no clue what it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translates to in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of actual keys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aside from ctrl and U. It's the ( I'm stumped on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See my main gripe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with NNN is if I use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in a terminal I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to hit O,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > w3m and c to open an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > html doc in w3m else
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it loads up in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox. Now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > granted I've not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried it on a pure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TTY but...on a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terminal, xdg-open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overrides
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > environment
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good people do not need laws to tell them to act
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsibly, while bad people will find a way around
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the laws.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Plato (427-347 B.C.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
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