That works great, I can open up my files in whatever app I like. I've made some tweaks to the config to account for tar/bzip/gzip files and other common archive formats as well, not sure what else I'm missing. This is like a way more useable Text Nautlius/Caja and it is flat out awesome now. One question. How would I set a shortcut to show/hide hidden folders and files? On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 03:04:13PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > its me again, the placeholder "{0}" is not longer needed if the file path > has to be at the end of the open with command, but still could be used if > the file path is needed somewhere in the middle. > so now it should be enought to enter > gedit > > cheers chrys > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:58 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > Howdy, > > > > thanks, well we can improve it step by step. Its very flexible and very > > easy to extend (depends on skills to create symbolic links loool) > > anyway. > > > > the syntax is quite simple. just enter the how you would open it from > > shell but replace the filename with {0} (this is a placeholder for the > > complete filepath) > > for gedit this would just be > > gedit {0} > > for me gedit opens then with the selected file. this currently only > > works for files. if your cursor is on an folder, it opens the path > > currently in dragonFM. > > to me more comfortable, i could just add the {0} if it does not exist at > > the end. > > > > cheers chrys > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > Indeed it does. Thanks, DFM is a really neat bit of software. > > > > > > However, how does the open with work? If I load up, say a text file and > > > hit open with... it gives me cat {0} | less > > > > > > What's the syntax for that one? I tried typing in Gedit and got nothing, > > > tried Pluma, tried nano, no luck > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:30:48PM +0200, Linux for blind general > > > discussion wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > Ok this time it was gits fault. it didnt realize that i changed > > > > the symlink > > > > from the absolute to an relative path. > > > > so i hat to remove commit and reacreate commit :). > > > > now it works for real :). > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:17 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > hmm still some issues, > > > > > > > > > > let me take a deeper look > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 14:09 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be fixed my friend. Sorry for that ^^. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 13:59 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > > > The simlink points to your home directory and shows up as a > > > > > > > broken simlink if I check. It's shown up as a symbolic link, > > > > > > > broken, pointing to /home/chrys/dragonfm/src...the .py script > > > > > > > that should be there there's a simlink instead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OnSat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:35:49PM +0200, Linux for blind general > > > > > > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i cant reproduce this here. > > > > > > > > I just did a look at git, looks like all files > > > > > > > > are pushed correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe a collision with an work in progress commit, wrong > > > > > > > > branch or python > > > > > > > > cache? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i guess it must be a local issue, setup.py and PKGBUILD work > > > > > > > > as expected > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 13:18 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > > > > > Not sure if that broke but on my end that's throwing up > > > > > > > > > a no such file for the open shell with... .py one when I > > > > > > > > > do sudo ./setup.py with a fresh install and doing in the > > > > > > > > > manual way. Not back on my Arch box right now so can't > > > > > > > > > test the pkgbuild though....but to replicate clone the > > > > > > > > > latest url and do sudo ./setup.py and watch for the > > > > > > > > > unable to copy error > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 01:05:18PM +0200, Linux for > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just add an "open entry with shell" action. > > > > > > > > > > currently assigned to ctrl + o. > > > > > > > > > > when you select a file, press ctrl + o an input box > > > > > > > > > > appears. there is a > > > > > > > > > > default value (configureable in settings.conf section folder key > > > > > > > > > > openWithShellInitValue). pressing enter executes the > > > > > > > > > > command then. {0} is > > > > > > > > > > the placeholder for the current selected file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you want > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + o for open > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + w for open with? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should i swap them or keep it as it is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 12:34 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just provided an PKGBUILD for dragonFM and uploaded it to AUR. > > > > > > > > > > > its currently a git package, as dragonFM does > > > > > > > > > > > not yet seen any stable > > > > > > > > > > > release ;). > > > > > > > > > > > name: dragonfm-git > > > > > > > > > > > url: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dragonfm-git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you already installed it using > > > > > > > > > > > setup.py you might need to remove > > > > > > > > > > > conflicting files from your filesystem fist. (as > > > > > > > > > > > setup.py does bypass > > > > > > > > > > > the package manager) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i added an wildcard mime type. if there is no > > > > > > > > > > > specific entry in the mime > > > > > > > > > > > list, the xdg-open pops up now. this might be more helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > well, i will implement the open with for you. give me a second. > > > > > > > > > > > i will assign it to ctrl + o and > > > > > > > > > > > move the open action to ctrl + m. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 12:25 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure I can test the pkgbuild once I'm back on my Arch box > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that input box works fine. I'll suggest > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+O as the shortcut for > > > > > > > > > > > > it so you got Enter/Ctrl+M to open (o maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > move open with to ctrl+M and > > > > > > > > > > > > see how that works?), and a ctrl+O for open with? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AAh I didnt know about just exiting the > > > > > > > > > > > > shell. I assumed that'd close > > > > > > > > > > > > the tab. My first thought was alright, fg > > > > > > > > > > > > dragonfm to get back to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at > > > > > > > > > > > > 11:13:25AM +0200, Linux for > > > > > > > > > > > > blind general > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK let me create a PKGBUILD for dragonfm-git > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I'm poking at the config trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > replicate NNN's open with and not > > > > > > > > > > > > > // having much luck. Is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a case of remembering > > > > > > > > > > > > > to drop > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a shell > > > > > > > > > > > > > // and doing what I need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does this look like? just a input dialog to enter any > > > > > > > > > > > > > command with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > current selected element as parameter? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // On that note...is there a way once I > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit F4, to get back to dragonfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > // easily without relaunching it from the shell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, just exit the shell (type "exit"), you will be back in > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragonfm then > > > > > > > > > > > > > :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.22 um 10:30 schrieb > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for blind general > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes to putting it in the AUR and yes for the env stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm poking at the config trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replicate NNN's open with and not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having much luck. Is that just a case of remembering to drop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to a shell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and doing what I need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On that note...is there a way once I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit F4, to get back to dragonfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easily without relaunching it from the shell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:41:49AM +0200, Linux for blind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently its not. If you like it, i can put it into AUR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.2022 um 07:54 schrieb Linux for blind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is DragonFM in the Arch repo? Am trying to get it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with yay from this side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 02:26:15AM +0200, Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok then i keep that alt + u. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That seems to work better, but does the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paytrion link you sent in another message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have the info on changing the shortcuts as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well i changed the shortcuts in master. So there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is no need to change them by others anymore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or what info you mean exactly? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is now at least a basic documentation :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 09.04.2022 um 02:15 schrieb Linux for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay if it's just alt+u then yes keep it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that way. That seems to work better, but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does the Paytrion link you sent in another > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > message have the info on changing the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts as well? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:28:30PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0200, Linux for blind general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i installed Mate terminal for testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok this is changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about ^[u i was wrong. its just alt + u > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so a single ^ is Ctrl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the sequence ^[ is alt if it is followed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by an letter. if not, its escape > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl + alt + x would be ^[^C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back to Alt + u, this worked for me, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should i change the shortcut in any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I'm trying to replace unzip and tar with atool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in section [mime] you see how to open an file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in section [compress] and [decompress] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can configure the de-/compressing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i changed this for you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compress (the word compress bevore the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > equal is just the lable shown in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > context menu): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {0} = Source: list of files separated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by space with absolut filepath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {1} = Destination: archive name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compress=apack -q {1} {0} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decompress (for zipfiles, you can just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > copy that for any other format > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supported by atool and change the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application/zip to whatever mimetype you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to unzip): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {0} = Source: file to decompress > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # {1} = Destination: folder with archive content > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application/zip=atool -f -q --extract-to={1} {0} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just pushed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.22 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um 22:11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure thing. Here''s what I whipped upp real quick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+D for details insteead of F10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ctrl+alt+x for extract instead of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trl+alt+u (which doesnt seem to work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on Mate?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to replace unzip and tar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with atool, how NNN handles it since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a lot nicer to have one tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that handles a ton of formats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having to hunt down 10 differrent programs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aside from that, not made any other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to the .conf file though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a neat little program, though > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just in case I missed any, go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and use DragonFM with a terminal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator and see what you can come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with for shortcuts? I'm on a laptop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > currently so that kind of hinders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what I can do shortcuts wise however > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:03:27PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0200, Linux for blind general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, F123 was mostly TTY only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the bindings are set with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that in mind :). The project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanted to momic GUI shortcuts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for most parts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The colliding shortcuts can be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed very easy in settings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you hand me a list with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts you want to have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed, i change them for you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right in master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As F123 is no more, TTY compat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not matter that much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anymore to me and we can improve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in terminal emulators (most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of them have more capabilities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than TTY in any way, for example > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > konsole ( the KDE terminal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator has special escape > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sequences for shift arrow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.2022 um 21:53 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb Linux for blind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, DragonFM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work well out of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > box with a terminal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulator, mostly down to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts with keys like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F10. Yes I can redefine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them, but that's kind of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something Im slwly slowly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > poking at. I'm unable to get > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mate-terminal to recognize a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+alt patern hough > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whereas a TTY works fine so, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsure if you need to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dragonfm on terminal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emulators with a desktop? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind of a shame since I like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how easy Dragon is to use vs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MC or Ranger or NNN (my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current favorite one that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't have keyboard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicts) though > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 09:36:28PM +0200, Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for blind general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well there is a context > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu ( dragonFM calls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it Details, because it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also shows file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > properties like size, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mime and a list of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available actions) with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all available options by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pressing F10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some actions are only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > available for given mime > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > types like compress > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current only for zip and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tar, others could be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addad very easy. By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > default dragonfm does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not use atool but unzip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > command for zip files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and tar of course for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tar those need to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > installed or confured to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use something else. (I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can give you a more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > detailed information how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to configure those stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are interested > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DragonFM reads the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Escape sequences from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stdin to detect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts (like almost > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other CLI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > application) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some important basic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation help (we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should add the shortcuts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as comments to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > settings file lol ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^ = CTRL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ = Alt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uppercase letter = shift + letter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lowercase letter = just the letter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An other example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^[u translates as ctrl + alt + u > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some specials like arrow keys or escape. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Escape is translated by ^[ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (by the way many > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shortcuts are similar to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other graphical file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > managers BUT shift + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrow for mark files is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different as i could not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > figure how to read this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from an escape sequence, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because there is no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uppercase arrow *smile*) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Development was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sponsored by F123 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project. Today known as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stormux. Sadly i did not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wire a lot of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation but you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can ask me everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you want to know :). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 08.04.2022 um > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18:41 schrieb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux for blind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I gave it a shot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it feels logical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and well laid out, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the most > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUt I'm struggling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on a few things. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have it going and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to unzip an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archive from within > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. In NNN I can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just do that and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work with atool. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't seem to find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the keys to start > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > extracting an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archive or how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dragonfm handles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that at all, Ive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only found unextract > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with ^(U in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config, which I've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no clue what it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translates to in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terms of actual keys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aside from ctrl and U. It's the ( I'm stumped on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See my main gripe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with NNN is if I use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in a terminal I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to hit O, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > w3m and c to open an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > html doc in w3m else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it loads up in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox. Now > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > granted I've not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried it on a pure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TTY but...on a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terminal, xdg-open > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overrides > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good people do not need laws to tell them to act > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > responsibly, while bad people will find a way around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the laws. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Plato (427-347 B.C.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list