Re: FYI - The Yggdrasil Screen Reader Project

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And there's my point. I did read documentation, but I shouldn't have to take a class or get a degree to figure out how part of my screen reader is supposed to work. I shouldn't come out of reading documentation to try to figure out part of my screen reader only to be left more confused than when I started either. I turned on Orca and figured it out right away, whereas when I needed to try to get nvda working just to partition a disk for someone I was working with at the time, it failed miserably, and getting a degree in screen reader design and development just to figure out what an object was or how to navigate it simply would not do.


And I do believe you were made aware of why there is a difference between navigation key toggling and focus mode. OK yes, I rather dislike focus mode in general, since I can remember when Orca's browser navigation just worked, and I could navigate to a text box and just start typing something and it would just work, and I could simply tab off the textbox to interact with the next control. Sadly those days are gone, although there is a setting that gives me back much of this functionality. I do still have to turn off structural navigation in some cases where I don't want focus mode, but this is due to the website I'm using. Focus mode on the nearest text field on textnow.com for example puts me in a field where I would be sending a text message, which is not what I want to do when I'm calling a system that needs me to dial numbers. And entering into focus mode on an odd part of the page locks me into that section, so I am unable to read up or down if needed. Fortunately in this case, all I have to do is to turn off structural navigation anywhere on the page and just dial the numbers I need. The same is true of Google Voice, which I use extensively for my job that requires that I enter an agent number and a one-time password to be connected. I have found it much easier to just type in my codes with structural navigation turned off than to have to go and open the dial pad, then find the open text box, which puts me into focus mode and then dial my codes. Again, is it perfect? No, not by any stretch, but it's also not unusable or even painful. Toggling structural navigation allows you to use your navigation keys to do other things in places where you don't want focus mode, and I for one don't want to see this functionality taken away because you or someone else thinks it's unnecessary. It is certainly a necessary part of my workflow, as demonstrated above.

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