dnl.nash@xxxxxxxxx Daniel Nash. On Wed, 19 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Howdy, > > jenux has installed fenrir by default? very interesting, i didnt know that (or > forgott about that). who is the creator of jenux? somebody i know from lists? > > cheers chrys > > Am 19.05.21 um 00:12 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > > One possible quick way to get an answer would be to install jenux which > > has fenrir installed and working as its screen reader by default. Then > > install pipewire and allow pulseaudio to be uninstalled. Then set up > > pipewire as far as you can and reboot the system. If fenrir comes up > > talking, fenrir and pipewire can work together. If not, maybe fenrir and > > pipewire can be made to work together after proper configuration. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > >> Howdy, > >> > >> // Do I necessarily have to have pulseaudio? can't I manage with pipewire? > >> > >> you can have pipewire as well. you can have anything what produce sound > >> :). But i cant say anything about that sorry. > >> > >> i don't know about the concept in the background. If pipewire has an > >> similar > >> concept as pulse audio (per user instance and isolation level), you might > >> need > >> an similar workarounds here. but the configuration scripts might not work > >> then. > >> > >> if you like experiments, its worth a try. if you find a way, let me know, > >> then > >> we can integrate a configure-pipewire as well. > >> > >> // I ran the scripts, and i did hear fenrir's startup sound icon, but only > >> when running Fenrir as current user, not as root, even after running the > >> script you suggested. > >> > >> yea this sounds like the symptom what the pulse configuration scripts > >> solve. > >> fenrir cant run as user currently (its planned, but not yet complete). so > >> fenrir dont get any input data to process (so the screeenreader cant read > >> your > >> screen :), its a non screen reader XD) > >> > >> cheers chrys > >> > >> > >> Am 18.05.21 um 18:52 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > >>> Hi there, > >>> > >>> > >>> Do I necessarily have to have pulseaudio? can't I manage with pipewire? > >>> > >>> I ran the scripts, and i did hear fenrir's startup sound icon, but only > >>> when > >>> running Fenrir as current user, not as root, even after running the script > >>> you suggested. > >>> > >>> Thanks again. > >>> > >>> Best regards. > >>> > >>> Francisco. > >>> > >>> On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>> Howdy, > >>>> > >>>> do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers > >>>> installed? > >>>> To get sure, reinstall it execute: > >>>> sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip > >>>> > >>>> sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default > >>>> configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the clipboard > >>>> between your GUI and Terminal. > >>>> > >>>> start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C > >>>> sudo fenrir > >>>> > >>>> did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at > >>>> startup. > >>>> > >>>> if not, then pulseaudio is not configured. > >>>> short story execute: > >>>> # configure user > >>>> /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh > >>>> # configure root > >>>> sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh > >>>> > >>>> # need to restart that the configuration for both get active > >>>> > >>>> restart > >>>> > >>>> then retry > >>>> > >>>> sudo fenrir > >>>> > >>>> long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the data > >>>> on > >>>> your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks or creates > >>>> sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of an other user by > >>>> pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to transport the sound created > >>>> as > >>>> root to the sound server you have running as user to finally hear the > >>>> sound. > >>>> > >>>> fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse audio to > >>>> send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio to listen to > >>>> the > >>>> sound sent by root and play it. > >>>> > >>>> cheers chrys > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello there, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved! > >>>>> > >>>>> The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir doesn't > >>>>> speak > >>>>> with espeak, or espeak-ng. > >>>>> > >>>>> Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks again. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards. > >>>>> > >>>>> Francisco. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>> Howdy Francisco, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by python-pyenchant if > >>>>>> those are spread warnings. Maybe this should be reported to the package > >>>>>> maintainer. But anyway. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you need by > >>>>>> "sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for example in > >>>>>> libvokko.so: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 10:14 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so > >>>>>> [sudo] Passwort f?r chrys: > >>>>>> :: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken... > >>>>>> core 903,5 KiB 6,17 MiB/s 00:00 > >>>>>> [#########################################################################] > >>>>>> 100% > >>>>>> extra 9,3 MiB 26,9 MiB/s 00:00 > >>>>>> [#########################################################################] > >>>>>> 100% > >>>>>> community 22,8 MiB 29,6 MiB/s 00:01 > >>>>>> [#########################################################################] > >>>>>> 100% > >>>>>> multilib 222,5 KiB 12,8 MiB/s 00:00 > >>>>>> [#########################################################################] > >>>>>> 100% > >>>>>> extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1 > >>>>>> usr/lib/libvoikko.so > >>>>>> 10:15 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko" > >>>>>> to silence out all the warnings do this: > >>>>>> sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell > >>>>>> > >>>>>> this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not create a > >>>>>> warning, but well, it is like it is) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as > >>>>>> graphical client). both are very nice. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> looking forward to see you in IRC :). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> cheers chrys > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion: > >>>>>>> Hello there, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, so > >>>>>>> thanks for that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I didn't > >>>>>>> know yaourt was deprecated. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC > >>>>>>> clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before joining > >>>>>>> an > >>>>>>> IRC channel, what ever it might be? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks again. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Francisco. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>>>> Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys (Fenrir > >>>>>>>> author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Maybe join him there? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Didier > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Le 17/05/2021 ? 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit : > >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> When I try to run fenrir with the command > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> fenrir > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [francisco@Blueblink ~]$ fenrir > >>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin: > >>>>>>>>> libhspell.so. > >>>>>>>>> 0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > >>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin: > >>>>>>>>> libvoikko.so. > >>>>>>>>> 1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > >>>>>>>>> ** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading plugin: > >>>>>>>>> libnuspell.so > >>>>>>>>> .4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for any answer. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best regards. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Francisco. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list