Howdy,
jenux has installed fenrir by default? very interesting, i didnt know
that (or forgott about that). who is the creator of jenux? somebody i
know from lists?
cheers chrys
Am 19.05.21 um 00:12 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
One possible quick way to get an answer would be to install jenux which
has fenrir installed and working as its screen reader by default. Then
install pipewire and allow pulseaudio to be uninstalled. Then set up
pipewire as far as you can and reboot the system. If fenrir comes up
talking, fenrir and pipewire can work together. If not, maybe fenrir and
pipewire can be made to work together after proper configuration.
On Tue, 18 May 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy,
// Do I necessarily have to have pulseaudio? can't I manage with pipewire?
you can have pipewire as well. you can have anything what produce sound
:). But i cant say anything about that sorry.
i don't know about the concept in the background. If pipewire has an similar
concept as pulse audio (per user instance and isolation level), you might need
an similar workarounds here. but the configuration scripts might not work
then.
if you like experiments, its worth a try. if you find a way, let me know, then
we can integrate a configure-pipewire as well.
// I ran the scripts, and i did hear fenrir's startup sound icon, but only
when running Fenrir as current user, not as root, even after running the
script you suggested.
yea this sounds like the symptom what the pulse configuration scripts solve.
fenrir cant run as user currently (its planned, but not yet complete). so
fenrir dont get any input data to process (so the screeenreader cant read your
screen :), its a non screen reader XD)
cheers chrys
Am 18.05.21 um 18:52 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
Hi there,
Do I necessarily have to have pulseaudio? can't I manage with pipewire?
I ran the scripts, and i did hear fenrir's startup sound icon, but only when
running Fenrir as current user, not as root, even after running the script
you suggested.
Thanks again.
Best regards.
Francisco.
On 5/18/21 5:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy,
do you have the requirements for the generic sound / voice drivers
installed?
To get sure, reinstall it execute:
sudo pacman -S sox espeak-ng xclip
sox is used for play sound, espeak for voice output in the default
configuration, xclip is a funny toy to let fenrir share the clipboard
between your GUI and Terminal.
start fenrir for testing in foreground - you can stop it using CTRL + C
sudo fenrir
did you hear the startup sound? fenrir plays a little soundicon at startup.
if not, then pulseaudio is not configured.
short story execute:
# configure user
/usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
# configure root
sudo /usr/share/fenrirscreenreader/tools/configure_pulse.sh
# need to restart that the configuration for both get active
restart
then retry
sudo fenrir
long storry: fenrir needs by default to run as root to collect the data on
your screen or caputre the input devices. if fenrir speaks or creates
sound, it does this as root user. you wont hear sound of an other user by
pulseaudio (sound server) design. We need to transport the sound created as
root to the sound server you have running as user to finally hear the
sound.
fenrir provides 2 scripts (see above) to configure the root puse audio to
send the data to your user and configure user pulse audio to listen to the
sound sent by root and play it.
cheers chrys
18.05.21 um 14:46 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
Hello there,
Thanks so much, now, that part of the problem is solved!
The other part, how ever, that is not solved, is that fenrir doesn't speak
with espeak, or espeak-ng.
Do I have to set something somewhere for that to happen?
Thanks again.
Best regards.
Francisco.
On 5/18/21 10:24 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Howdy Francisco,
i dont know why those libs are not an dependency by python-pyenchant if
those are spread warnings. Maybe this should be reported to the package
maintainer. But anyway.
you can ask pacman what package contains the specific file you need by
"sudo pacman -Fy filename". here i did this for for example in
libvokko.so:
10:14 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $ sudo pacman -Fy libvoikko.so
[sudo] Passwort f?r chrys:
:: Synchronisiere Paketdatenbanken...
core 903,5 KiB 6,17 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
extra 9,3 MiB 26,9 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
community 22,8 MiB 29,6 MiB/s 00:01
[#########################################################################]
100%
multilib 222,5 KiB 12,8 MiB/s 00:00
[#########################################################################]
100%
extra/libvoikko 4.3.1-1
usr/lib/libvoikko.so
10:15 [chrys@blackbeast ~] :) $
so the package you need for libvokko.so is "libvoikko"
to silence out all the warnings do this:
sudo pacman -S libvoikko nuspell hspell
this install all 3 (IMO optional dependency's, what should not create a
warning, but well, it is like it is)
i use irssi as IRC (commandline) client. there is also Pidgin (as
graphical client). both are very nice.
looking forward to see you in IRC :).
cheers chrys
Am 18.05.21 um 08:57 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
Hello there,
I managed to install one of the libraries, but not the other two, so
thanks for that.
Also, thanks for suggesting to use yay, I just installed it, I didn't
know yaourt was deprecated.
My question now is, and this'll be dum, what are recommended IRC
clients? how do I get them working? what should I know before joining an
IRC channel, what ever it might be?
Thanks again.
Best regards.
Francisco.
On 5/17/21 9:19 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi, I just posted a link to this message intended to chrys (Fenrir
author) on the #a11y channel of irc.linux-a11y.org.
Maybe join him there?
Didier
Le 17/05/2021 ? 20:15, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit :
Hello everyone,
I just downloaded fenrir-git from the AUR using yaourt.
When I try to run fenrir with the command
fenrir
in a terminal, how ever, i get fenrir's startup sound, and this:
[francisco@Blueblink ~]$ fenrir
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
libhspell.so.
0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.374: Error loading plugin:
libvoikko.so.
1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
** (process:7008): WARNING **: 20:12:45.377: Error loading plugin:
libnuspell.so
.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Any ideas on how to fix it, and no speech either.
Thank you for any answer.
Best regards.
Francisco.
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