The most useful approach for accessibility users unless they use a mouse is to install startx and ratpoison and then have ratpoison run which brings up startx and startx then brings up mate. The ratpoison is a package which when you get it working makes startx accessible more so than it already is. On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 13:02:51 > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Want to try a GUI. Which one is best? > > This is really something debian does not provide. Archlinux that can be > done with installing a few of the correct packages and I don't remember > the list now didn't save it in braille. Now, with slint you can do all > of that and that's one of the installation choices. Slint doesn't have > gnome either but does have mate. > https://slint.fr/ is the first url and search the page for accessibility > and read what you find. > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 12:30:57 > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Want to try a GUI. Which one is best? > > > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for all your suggestions. I have Debian Buster, command-line only. I may just wait until the next Debian testing is available and see if they include Mate. > > I > > will be using brltty, and no speech. > > > > This leaves one concern in my original message for discussion. I want Debian to boot into the command-line, but I want to have a command or script for starting > > the GUI when I need it. > > > > Thanks, > > John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > Best I can tell, Mate 1.24 is currently available in both Debian > > > Testing(aka Bull's Eye which will eventually become Debian 11) and > > > Debian Unstable(aka Sid). > > > > > > It's unlikely something as big as a new version of Mate will make it > > > into Debian 9 aka Stretch or oldstable or Debian 10 aka Buster or > > > Stable as Debian priortizes stability over cutting edge, though it > > > might make it into backports(more likely for Buster than for Stretch, > > > but I confess to not knowing how long Debian supports Oldstable when a > > > new Stable is released). > > > > > > That said, while Orca, the primary, and possibly only, graphical > > > screen reader for Linux, is officially part of Gnome and persumably > > > optimized for that environment, and probably works so well with Mate > > > due to Mate's origins as a Gnome fork(as I understand it, Gnome 3 > > > brought many controversial changes to look and feel and Mate startedas > > > a way to keep the Gnome 2.x look and feel in an updated environment), > > > Orca should, in theory, be able to work with any GTK-based Desktop > > > Environment or Window Manager, though anything QT-based(KDE chief > > > among them) is currently a bit hit or miss. > > > > > > Gnome or Mate might be the best options for a beginner as they're the > > > most well documented DEs for using them with Orca, but Knoppix using a > > > combination of LXDE and Orca when launching a full Desktop seems to > > > work well, and I've heard people have had success with the ratpoison > > > window Manager. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list