If all web designers and browser developers adhered to W3C standards, I suspect most of these problems would be non-existant... However, I suspect those who make an effort to comply with standards are in the minority, that those who actually manage compliance are even rarer, and that a majority of those not trying for compliance are not even aware the W3C exists. I also suspect the W3C is completely lacking in the ability to enforce their standards, have my doubts any legal mandates that are enforcible align completely with W3C standards, and suspect the average user has negligible leverage to hold those who violate web standards accountable, especially if the site is hosted in a different country or the site owner lives in a different country from the user with the grievance. Standards are nice and all, but their usefulness is much diminished if most of the relevant individuals are just ignoring the standards and doing their own thing, and personal experience would suggest that's exactly what's happening, especially if mouse/touch-only elements and vision tests in place of turing tests are violations of the standards as the abominations that are JavaScript clickables and Captcha are all over the place. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list