Well crud. I just got suckered by an April Fools joke post http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1036224 reading the subject & body, but not noting the date. Thanks, Joel, for catching my goof! Sorry about any confusion there. That said, EIG-owned hosting services are still horrible and should be avoided at all costs. -Tim On July 7, 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Tim, > > Whatever other problems dreamhost has, it does not appear on > the list of EIG-owned hosting companies that you linked. > > -joel > > On Sat, Jul 07, 2018 at 04:59:59PM -0500, Linux for blind general > discussion wrote: > > Tim here. > > > > First, my condolences regarding Dreamhost. They used to be good, > > but they were bought out by EIG (Endurance International Group). > > That's EIG's MO. They buy good hosting companies to obtain the > > customers and then ruin the property. Twice now I've found a > > great hosting company and migrated there, only to have EIG buy > > them out and turn it to [stream of profanity here]. So my first > > word of advice is to check lists of EIG-owned properties and > > avoid them like the plague. Here's one such list > > > > https://researchasahobby.com/full-list-eig-hosting-companies-brands/ > > > > I'd also avoid "1&1" hosting based on my past experiences with > > them. > > > > Once you know who *not* to pick, it depends on how much > > management you want the hosting company to do. There's managed > > (often called "shared" hosting) and unmanaged "VPS" (virtual > > private server) hosting. It sounds like you currently have > > managed hosting where the hosting service takes care of email, > > configuring your web-server & database, and you just customize > > with your domain-name, web-content/applications, and > > mail-addresses. It can usually be found cheaper than VPS hosting > > because they share one server's resources across a LOT of > > customers. > > > > With a VPS it's more like tou get a virtual machine and you're > > responsible for administering it. You can usually choose the OS > > (usually from popular Linux distributions, but some also provide > > FreeBSD or OpenBSD which I've come to prefer), choose which > > servers you want to run (mail, web-server, database, IRC, > > whatever), install those, and you are responsible for upgrades > > too. For these, I've been pleased with (or heard good things > > from people I trust about) OVH, Vultr, Digital Ocean, and > > Linode. For basic email and light web-hosting, any of their > > low-end plans should suffice, including Vultr's $2.50/mo which is > > about the lowest-price-for-best-features I've seen. Most of the > > others have reasonable starter plans around $5/mo which may be a > > better price-point for you. With 1GB of RAM and 20-30GB of > > disk-space, you shouldn't have any issues (unless you're hosting > > large files). > > > > For managed/shared hosting, here are a couple recent reviews of > > such services: > > > > https://www.cnet.com/web-hosting/ > > > > https://researchasahobby.com/best-website-hosting-companies-fooling/reliable-web-hosting-recommend/ > > > > though I'd eliminate any EIG properties from consideration. There > > are lots of such services and they vary in cost depending on how > > much hand-holding you need, phone-support, whether you want SSH > > access (I consider this a must-have), disk space, number of > > databases and email addresses, etc. You should be able to get > > something pretty reasonable for $5/month. > > > > -tim > > > > > > > > > > On July 7, 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > I realize many of you do your own servers and the like, so I am > > > going to ask this question with great care. My needs are rather > > > specific, and even if they seem old fashioned, they are rooted > > > in part in how my specific disability experiences manifest just > > > now. I work with a nonprofit organization with several program > > > areas in more than one country. > > > presently our web needs are housed with dreamhost. > > > www.dreamhost.com > > > Their hosting accounts include a fairly solid shell structure, > > > in Ubuntu, including programs like alpine. I use ssh telnet > > > to reach these services and must have comparative access where > > > ever i go. Dreamhost made security changes about a week ago > > > which now block my ssh access. while I may discover a work > > > around, their mail server behavior has been loopy for a while > > > so...a blessing lies in all this mayhem. I am going to contact > > > one shell service of which I am already aware, preferring not > > > to bring all of my Internet life here to shellworld. So, yes > > > there is a question laughs. Can you suggest a comparative > > > hosting service that a, provides a functional shell as apart of > > > their account. b allows for more than one domain to be hosted > > > with them, including sftp access and a great deal of account > > > space. c. has good customer service > > > and > > > d, is reasonably priced? > > > dreamhost donates hosting accounts to 501c3 organizations, so it > > > has been a free ride. > > > I do not expect that to continue, but I do hope to find > > > something reasonable. > > > > > > Thanks for your ideas if any. > > > Oh, I have no interest whatsoever in hosting my needs on my > > > own. I lack both the resources and talent for such a venture > > > here in Toronto. 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