Re: speechdispatcher-git

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Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> Curiosity for the most part.  I wouldn't do auto-login on a machine.
> 

For the most part that's probably the best approach. However, there are
exceptions, and the current discussion illustrates one such.

We're being asked to help someone get their Orca plus speech-dispatcher
setup working. As with any debugging situation, if the problem isn't
immediately obvious, a good approach is to simplify the environment in
order to isolate the issue.

So, in the current instance, launching startx from a standard text
console would quickly show whether there are issues specifically with
the Orca setup, or not. The only caveat here is any required unique startx
tweak, probably an .xinitrc with:

exec gnome-session

Yes, it's possibly the case that one could just as easily login on the
text console, but that can require some configuration, too, e.g.
possibly the beep on backspace hasn't been configured. That wouldn't be
an issue with Speakup, or some other console level screen reader, of
course. And, one could always test the console environment with with a
beep command like:

echo Ctrl+g

Now, if the situation is such that multiple individuals use the
computer, some solution involving gdm is clearly desirable. But, if
there's only one person using the computer, I strongly question the
value of gdm, though login to the computer is probably still advisable.

But, if this individual, the only one using the computer, also lives
alone and rarely entertains untrusted individuals, even an auto login
could be reasonable.

Just my thoughts here.

Janina





> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:59:25
> > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: speechdispatcher-git
> > 
> > OK, let me try to be a bit more specific.
> > 
> > Why do you think you need a graphical login manager? What, exactly is it
> > doing for you?
> > 
> > I ask this question because the easiest way to avoid the problems
> > handing off speech from the dm to the gnome session with orca is to not
> > use a dm at all. Options include autologin on the console, or standard
> > console login, followed by startx which can reliably start Orca and
> > speech-dispatcher.
> > 
> > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > because I tried lightdm first and that didn't work either.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 07:44:51
> > > > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: speechdispatcher-git
> > > > 
> > > > Why do you need gdm?
> > > > 
> > > > Linux for blind general discussion writes:
> > > > > It builds but doesn't run.  Seems to be missing libdotconf.so.0 and the
> > > > > libdotconf library doesn't appear to be in the archlinux repositories.  I
> > > > > uncommented lines in speechdispatcher-git PKGBUILD file to enable
> > > > > speechdispatcher to run as a system-wide process and this may be necessary
> > > > > for speech to work in graphical user interface on archlinux but I could be
> > > > > wrong about that.  If all of this doesn't work, I know what commands to use
> > > > > to turn off gdm or lightdm with my archlinux system disk.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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