Phil: I want to make sure I understand ... Are you saying that console level access is explicitly disallowed by policy? I would presume that's some kind of security decision? Phil Rigby writes: > Hi, > > I use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, (RHEL), all the time at work. We manage > servers running RHEL, a lot of them Dell Poweredge rack mounts or Dell > blades. When new hardware comes in, I try to get them to set up things so > that the serial over LAN settings in the BIOS are enabled and, with a couple > of tweaks to the grub.conf file, I can get the RHEL console redirected and > then I ssh to the ILO/IDRAC card where I then have full console access so > that I can solve boot up issues or access the server when all its network > interfaces are dead. > > It is very rare these days that I actually do an OS installation as we have > kickstart files which run OS installs these days so they come up as a > standard build for a customer. > > In this environment, it doesn't matter a bit really what flavour of Linux is > used. It isn't Linux that is accessible or not. If you have ssh access to > the console and then, once the OS is up and running, via any network > connection, you can do everything whatever the Linux flavour. > > Now this is fine for the good old physical server world. My big problem is > that so much is going virtual now. We use VMWare for virtualisation and I > just cannot access the console of a VMWare VM running RHEL because these > seem only to be accessible through horrible Java GUI's which are only seen > through vCenter. To get to vCenter across a network, I would need to RDP > from a terminal server which is impossible. Even if I could do this, I > couldn't use the Java GUI as that is hopeless with most screen readers I > know. Before anyone suggests it, there is No such thing as direct access to > vCenter with a command line interface in the corporate world. I've tried for > it. You have my employer's corporate network policies, the customer's own > access policies and everything else blocking this. > > I have asked before on here if anyone has solutions in this area and I only > met with sympathy as several other people seem to have hit the same problem > but not yet found a solution. > > I just hope physical servers stay around a bit longer. > > > Cheers, > Phil. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blinux-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of John G Heim > Sent: 10 August 2016 16:48 > To: Linux for blind general discussion > Subject: Re: redhat itself > > Surely there must be somebody building kernels with those modules so that > you can install by adding their yum repository to your system. If not, it > would mean that a blind RH systems admin couldn't do his work at the > console. If remote access is broken he'd be in serious trouble. Most systems > admins don't have a choice as to what flavor of linux they use in their job. > Here at the University of Wisconsin, the IT department used to run Red Hat. > The campus had a site license. The Math Department, where I work, uses > debian and ubuntu. But if I worked in another department, I'd probably be > stuck with RH. > > > I have been building kernels for debian and ubuntu that have a hack do > serial synths work. I set up a apt repository at www.iavit.org so other > people can use them too. I don't know anything about Red Hat but surely > there must be the equivalent of a ppa. > > > > > On 08/10/2016 09:10 AM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Well, I've moved from Fedora to Arch on any machine where I need > > Speakup. The reason is that rpmfusion has not provided kernel staging > > modules since kernel 4.0.4. > > > > So, I had the choice of constantly building my own, or switching > > distros. I chose the latter. > > > > I am still running Fedora on my data center server, but I don't use > > Speakup on that machine, of course. > > > > Janina > > > > Willem van der Walt writes: > >> Redhat these days is mostly used on servers as one buys support for > >> that, but it is accessible. > >> I ran Redhat years ago, but these days, I think, Janina is still > >> running it or Fedora without problems. > >> HTH, Willem > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Mark Peveto wrote: > >> > >>> Hmm, I noticed this is hosted on redhat.com. Does redhat have an > accessible distro? > >>> > >>> Everything happens after coffee! > >>> > >>> Mark Peveto > >>> Registered Linux user number 600552 > >>> Sent from sonar using alpine 2.20.14 > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> > >> This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, > >> e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) > >> standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > >> > >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > -- > John G. 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