Jude, Paul: You can also do this in vim using what vim calls folding. I've found it very helpful on large documents, when I need to sections of the document to be on screen at the same time. The stuff inbetween gets "folded" out of the way. Janina Jude DaShiell writes: > Paul, > > Have you tried orgmode for an outliner yet? Also, have you tried cinnamon > yet? If you haven't, org-mode is part of any current version of emacs and > you get to its documentation by running info org. Cinnamon is a flavor of > operating system offered by debian fedora and other distributions. > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Merrell wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:22:01 > > From: Paul Merrell <marbux@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: How did people here learn GUIs > > > > I guess I'm going to show my age here. I began my computing experience > > running a DEC PDP8 with a proprietary operating system (punched paper > > tape days). That was followed by several computerized phototypesetting > > machines made by Compugraphic, including one of the very first area > > composition systems, the Compugraphic ACM 9000. (My first career was > > as a typographer.) > > > > My first personal computer was a KeyPro IV portable (26 pounds), which > > came with a CP/M operating system. I quickly discovered Rex Conn's > > ZCPR modifications for the CPU that enabled more versatile batch > > programming. I stuck with CP/M until MS DOS was at version 5.0, at > > which time I switched to DR DOS with the 4DOS extensions. 4DOS (also > > by Rex Conn) gave DOS approximately the capabilities of the UNIX KORN > > shell of that period. Later I added WordPerfect Corp.'s Shell 4.0 for > > my GUI. Shell was roughly the equivalent of Windows 3.11 but was menu > > rather than window and icon based. And unlike Windows it was fully > > programmable and had task switching memory management that was vastly > > superior to Windows 3.11 (I used to run Windows 3.11 as an app under > > Shell 4.0.) > > > > Eventually, I was forced onto Windows 98 as program support for DOS > > faded away. But Win98 was full of bugs and I never liked the > > window/icon graphical user interface (I have the same issue with OS > > X). Many of my DOS programs (including Shell 4.0) could no longer be > > used because they lacked long file name support and would convert long > > file names created by Windows and programs to 8.3 format, which would > > bring the system to its knees. > > > > Windows XP was next. There were a lot fewer critical bugs than Win98. > > I regained a lot of the batch processing versatility by running Rex > > Conn's TakeCommand on top of XP. At the time, TakeCommand used a > > menu-driven paradigm. > > > > I was forced to take a medical retirement in 2002 (I had been a lawyer > > in my second career) because of an injury that vastly curtailed my > > brain's working memory. At that point I had been aware of Linux for > > several years and after cursing a dual boot setup with Kubuntu for a > > few months bought a second PC for it and switched the XP machine to > > Win7. By this time, TakeCommand had largely switched to the > > windows/icon paradigm but Win 7 was far more stable for the must-have > > Windows programs. And I stuck with Kubuntu until KDE 4.0 was imposed. > > The productivity hit from all the KDE 4.0 eye candy and gadgetry sent > > me running for a new Linux desktop. I wound up using Linux Mint with > > the Mate desktop because of the developers' commitment to keeping the > > Gnome 2 desktop experience alive and there's access to all of the > > Ubuntu distro's packages. Since my retirement, my need for Windows > > programs has largely subsided and I mostly use the Mint box plus a > > laptop that also runs Mint. > > > > Because of the brain injury, use of an outliner for taking notes > > became important. I wasted a few years looking for an outliner that > > was both cross-platform and capable of a minimalist HTML export with a > > hyperlinked table of contents. I finally found the one I was looking > > for in NoteCase Pro. I fell in love with it to the extent that my > > retirement hobby for the last 5 years or so is assisting in its > > development as a volunteer, improving its accessibility (still a long > > way to go there), writing its Help file, and writing extensions for it > > in the Lua scripting language. I suspect that because of its > > extensibility it is among the geekiest of outliners out there. > > > > I love Linux because of the powerful command line with the BASH shell. > > Windows, icons, and mouse pointers at the OS level have all seemed > > like giant leaps backwards to me. But the advertising myth that they > > boost productivity seems unstoppable. Linux at least offers me a > > choice. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Paul; > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list