I used to hate MAN pages and not done this stuff since Speakup on slackware9 using an old external Dolphin synth and edbrowse. I don't know how far edbrowse has come since then, but was on a list for ages and kept seeing messages about improvements. But to get back to that, it must have a software synth or TTS now. That's the bit I'm completely adrift with. RobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: <blinux.list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:21 PM Subject: Re: just how much can you do with? On March 2, 2013, Hart Larry wrote: > As an example, here is a Debian man for ren "rename" [snip] That might be a bit unfair, as the Linux way to rename files is to just use "mv" ("move", which also serves to "move" the file to a new name). This is a lot closer to the DOS behavior. The "rename" command can get crazy-complex for batch-transforming filenames, slicing and dicing them and reassembling the pieces as you see fit. I use both, but I only bring out the heavy artillery of "rename" when I actually need it. That said, the man pages *are* daunting if you're not already comfortable with the environment. I've found it helpful to set up a few DOS-like aliases in my ~/.bash_aliases file that do what I mean, even when I type the DOS command: alias dir='ls -lsFa' alias cd..='cd ..' alias ren=mv alias md=mkdir alias rd=rmdir (you might have to put those in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile instead, if your environment doesn't automatically handle .bash_alias files). -tim _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list