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Hi again,
well I am not a total newbie, have been on a few lists for a few years. still I am not fond of tinkering with my machine either. Finally have someone here in Toronto who I can trust and who really understands my computing needs. do send me the link to join the vinux list, I have some specific questions as to things I wish to be able to do, programs I hope to run etc. As for the specs for my IBM thinkpad 560 f, this is likely more than one might want to know, but I will just paste all the details below.
Thanks again,
Karen
   Thinkpad 560 specs
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   STANDARD FEATURES
   BIOS (7s)
   ROM Size 128KB
   ROM Shadowing Yes
   Keyboard Speed Setting Yes
   Processor Speed Setting Switch/Software ???
   Plug and Play (PnP) Support ???
   Quick POST Yes
   Setup and Diagnostics
   Stored on Hard Disk/Flash ROM Flash ROM
   VESA APM Support Yes (8z)
   DPMS Support ???
   Rapid Resume Yes
   LED Indicators Yes
   Math Coprocessor Integrated into processor
   Coprocessor Speed (MHz) 100 (50A/50C)
   120 (E0A/E0C)
   133 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
   STANDARD VIDEO CONTROLLER SVGA
   8/16/32-bit Controller 16
   Video Chip Set ???
   Local Bus Yes (PCI)
   Video Accelerator Yes
   Bus Master ???
   Video Memory (Standard) 1MB
   Video Memory (Maximum) 1MB
   Maximum Graphics with LCD SVGA
   EXTERNAL MONITOR PORT Yes
   Concurrent Use with External Monitor Yes - Both are active
   Type of Monitor Supported VGA/SVGA
   Maximum Resolution/Colors 1024x768x256-Colors (NI)
   BUILT-IN DISPLAY Color LCD (E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G)
   Technology Thin-Film Transistor (TFT)
   Dimensions (Diagonal) 12.1"
   # of Colors Concurrently 64K
   Color Palette 64K Colors
   Contrast Ratio ???
   Non-interlaced Yes
   Detachable No
   Screen Tilt 180�
   BUILT-IN DISPLAY Color LCD (50A/50C)
   Technology Dual-Scan Twisted Nematic (DSTN)
   Dimensions (Diagonal) 11.3"
   # of Colors Concurrently 256
   Color Palette ??? Colors
   Contrast Ratio ???
   Non-interlaced Yes
   Detachable No
   Screen Tilt 135�
   MULTIMEDIA FEATURES
   Mwave DSP No
   SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Yes (???????? chip)
   Microphone Built-In Yes
   Speaker(s) Built-In Yes
   Stereo Audio/Voice Playback Yes
   Stereo Input Jack Yes
   Stereo Headphone/Speaker Jack Yes
   MIDI/Joystick Port Yes
   Volume Control Slider Yes
   Audio Drivers N/A
   Enhanced Video Card ???
   INTERNAL MODEM Optional PCMCIA
   TELEPHONY FEATURES No
   PORT REPLICATOR/DOCKING UNIT CONNECTORYes
   POINTING DEVICE PORTS 1
   Built-in TrackPoint III on Keybd Yes
   PS/2-Type Mouse Port Yes (3t)(4v)
   SERIAL PORTS (RS232C) 1
   Supports DMA Data Transfer No
   Maximum Ports Supported 1
   9/25-Pin 9-pin
   UART Chip Used NS16550-compatible
   FIFO Mode Enabled ???
   Maximum Speed (bits/second) ???
   PARALLEL PRINTER PORTS 1
   Supports DMA Data Transfer No
   Supports ECP/EPP Transfers EPP
   Maximum Ports Supported 1
   Bi-directional Yes
   EXTERNAL KEYBOARD PORT Yes (4v)
   EXTERNAL DISKETTE DRIVE PORT Yes
   INFRARED TRANSCEIVERS (Front/Back) Side
   Data Transfer/Printing Both
   Supports IBM Mode (1.15 Mbps) No
   Supports HP Mode (9.6-115 Kbps) Yes (4q)
   Supports Sharp Mode (9.6 Kbps) No
   File Transfer Software Included Yes
   SCSI PORT ???
   CMOS CLOCK Yes
   CMOS Battery Life (years) 5
   Replaceable Yes (Dealer Only)
   POWER SOURCE
   Battery Yes
   AC Adapter Included Yes (35W)
   Quick Charge Feature ???
   Car Cigarette Lighter Adapter ???
   Number of Batteries Supplied 1
   Battery Type Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion)
   Battery Pack Specs 10.8V, 2.2AH
   Length of Battery Charge (hrs) 3
   Battery Charging While Operating ?.? - ?.? hours
   Powered Off or In Suspend Mode ?.? - ?.? hours
   Battery "Fuel Gauge" Software ???
   Battery Discharge Utility Included ???
   Non-Disruptive Battery Exchange ???
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   BUILT-IN EXPANSION SLOTS
   Number of PCMCIA Type I/II/III Slots 0/0/1 (4f)
   IBM 3545 ThinkPad Dock I System No
   IBM 3546 ThinkPad Dock II System No
   IBM 3547 ThinkPad SelectaDock I No
   IBM ThinkPad 560 Port Replicator Optional
   IBM ThinkPad Replicator Model I No
   IBM ThinkPad Replicator Model II No
   IBM ThinkPad SelectaDock Base Model I No
   OPERATING SYSTEM SUPPORT
   IBM PC/DOS 7.0,J7.0/V, or later
   IBM OS/2 Warp/Warp Connect 3.0, or later
   IBM OS/2 Warp Server 4.0, or later
   IBM OS/2 Warp-Japanese 3.0, or later (F0D)
   MS DOS 6.22, or later
   MS Windows 3.11, or later
   MS Windows for Workgroups 3.11, or later
   MS Windows NT Workstation 3.51, or later
   MS Windows 95 1.0, or later
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   ARCHITECTURE
   Bus Type PCI/ISA
   Microprocessor Pentium
   Uses 3.3 Volt Technology Yes
   Clock Multiplying Yes (1.5X) (50A/50C)
   Yes (2X) (E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G)
   Clock Speed (MHz)
   Internal 100 (50A/50C)
   External 66 (50A/50C)
   Internal 120 (E0A/E0C)
   External 60 (E0A/E0C)
   Internal 133 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
   External 66 (F0D/F0E/F0G)
   Processor Cache Controller Yes (4u)
   Standard Internal Cache 16K
   Standard External Cache 0K
   Maximum External Cache 0K
   Instruction Set 32 bit
   Addressing 32 Bit
   I/O Channel Width 32 bit
   Upgradeable Processor No
   Interrupt Levels 15
   Type (ISA) Edge-triggered, non-shareable
   Type (PCI) Level-sensitive, shareable
   Maximum Bus Data Transfer Rates
   ISA Burst Transfer Mode 8 Mbytes/second
   PCI Burst Transfer Mode 132 Mbytes/second
   DMA Channels 7
   DMA Burst Mode Supported ???
   24/32-bit DMA Controller 32
   Memory Interleaving Yes
   Page Memory Logic Yes
   Bus Masters Supported Yes
   MEMORY
   RAM on Motherboard
   Standard Motherboard RAM 8MB (2r)(7t)
   Maximum Motherboard RAM 40MB (3d)
   Memory Sockets Total/Available 2/2 (3d)
   RAM Speed (ns) 70
   RAM Type Supported 64-bit EDO DIMMs (3d)
   DIMMs Supported 8MB/16MB/32MB (3d)
   Wait States 0
   ECC/Parity Support No
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   DISK STORAGE
   Selectable Boot ???
   Bootable Physical Drives ???
   Internal Drive Bays in System 2
   Number of 2.5"/3.5"/5.25" 1/1/0
   Number of 2.5"/3.5"/5.25" Available 0/0/0
   Number of PCMCIA Type I/II/III Slots 0/0/1 (4f)
   Number of PCMCIA Slots Available 0/0/1 (4f)
   PCMCIA Specification Supported V2.01
   PCMCIA Socket Services Specification V2.0
   DISKETTE DRIVES
   Standard Drive(s) 1 x 1.44MB
   Media Sensing ???
   Removable Yes
   Internal Drives Supported 0
   External Drives Supported 1
   Maximum Drives Supported 1
   Optional Drives
   5.25" 360K No
   5.25" 1.2MB No
   3.5" 720K No
   3.5" 1.44MB No
   3.5" 2.88MB No
   HARD DISK DRIVES
   Standard Hard Disk Controller Type Enhanced IDE (EIDE) |
   Adapter/Motherboard Motherboard
   Controllers Supported per System 1
   Devices Supported per Controller 1
   Standard Hard Disk (Removable) 810MB (50A/50C/E0A/E0C)
   1.08GB (F0D/F0E/F0G)
   Encoding Method "No ID Sectoring"
   Drive Form Factor 2.5"
   Average Access Rate (ms) 12.5 ms (810MB)
   8.1 ms (1.08GB)
   Hard Disk Data Transfer/second 8.3 Mbits/sec (810MB)
   ??.?-??.? Mbits/sec (1.08GB)
   Rotational Speed (RPMs) ???
   Average Latency (ms) 7.5 (810MB)
   ?.? (1.08GB)
   Number of Heads 16 logical (810MB)
   ??? (1.08GB)
   Number of Platters ???
   Sectors per Track 63 (810MB)
   ??? (1.08GB)
   Number of Cylinders 1571 (810MB)
   ??? (1.08GB)
   Sector Interleave 1:1
   Buffer Size ???KB (810MB)
   64K (1.08GB)
   Shock Rating (Gs): Operating ??
   Non-operating ??
   Auto Park N/A
   Maximum Number of Internal Hard Drives 1
   Maximum Aggregate Capacity 1 x 1.08GB (3n)
   TAPE STORAGE
   Internal Tape Drive Support No
   External Tape Drive Support Yes
   Parallel Port Drives Yes
   PCMCIA-Connected Drives Yes
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   KEYBOARD
   Keyboard Type 84/85-key (9s)
   Numeric Keypad Optional (9s)
   External Keyboard Supported Yes
   LED Indicators on Keyboard Yes
   Popup Tilt Keyboard No
   Keyboard Slope ???
   Palm Rest ???
   Trackball Integrated into Keyboard No
   TrackPoint III Integrated into Keyboard Yes
   Extra TrackPoint III caps Yes (3)
   Quiet Keyboard Operation Yes
   SECURITY
   Bolt-Down Option ???
   C2 Security Enabled ???
   Electronic Personalization Feature Yes (h)
   Hard Disk Drive Password No
   Kensington Lock Slot Yes
   Keyboard Password Yes (provided by operating system)
   Keylock-Locks Cover No
   Locks Keyboard No
   Locks Entire System No
   Power-on Password Yes
   Unattended Startup Mode ???
   Privileged Access Password No
   Supervisor Password Yes
   Vital Product Data (VPD) Enabled No
   DESCRIPTION 2640-50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0D/F0E/F0G
   PHYSICAL FACTORS
   Footprint Type Notebook
   Dimensions: (Height/Width/Depth) 1.22" (31mm) / 11.7" (297mm) / 8.7"
   (222mm)
   Weight (With Battery) 4.1 lbs (1.86 kg) (EOA/EOC/F0D/FOE/FOG)
   4.12 lbs (1.87 kg) (50A/50C)
   Spare Battery Weight 0.67 lbs (302 g)
   Removable Diskette Drive Weight 0.56 lbs (255 g)
   1.08GB HDD Weight 0.32 lbs (144 g)
   ThinkPad 560 Port Replicator Weight 0.73 lbs (331 g)
   Carrying Case Optional
   ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS
   AC Adapter (Universal) Yes
   Specifications ??W, 100-240 VAC, 50/60Hz
   Amperage at: 90-137 VAC 1.0
   100-265 VAC 0.55
   Operating Range: Temperature 41-95� F (0-8,000 ft - without
   diskette)
   50-95� F (0-8,000 ft - with diskette in
   drive)
   41-88� F (8-10,000 ft - without diskette)
   50-88� F (8-10,000 ft - with diskette in
   drive)
   Relative Humidity 8-95% (without diskette)
   8-80% (with diskette in drive)
   Maximum Operating Altitude(ft) 10,000
   Maximum Shock (Non-operating) ?? G's
   Maximum Vibration (Operating) ?? G's
   Heat (BTUs/Hour) 136
   Noise (Avg dB, Operating, 1m) 5.1 bels
   Classification 3D (office)
   MISCELLANEOUS
   Software Preloaded Windows 95 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
   (3v)
   OS/2 Warp Connect with WIN-OS/2 (F0D)
   CISPR Approval 22 Class B
   CSA Approval (Canada) C22.2 No. 950
   FCC Certification (USA) Class B
   UL Approval (USA) 1950
   NOM Approval (Mexico) Yes
   SASO Approval (Saudi Arabia) Yes
   VCCI Approval (Japan) Class 2 (0 dB)
   Warranty Period 1 Year
   International Warranty Service Yes (7n)
   Countries Warranty Service Valid In 80+
   On-site/Carry-in Carry-in, or EasyServ (in U.S./Canada)
   Announcement Letter Numbers PCC96-229 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
   PCC96-281 (F0D)
   Date Announced 21May96 (50A/50C/E0A/E0C/F0E/F0G)
   25Jun96 (F0D)
   Date Withdrawn N/A

On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Jackie McBride wrote:

Karen, it really depends on how familiar u r w/linux, etc. Vinux comes
up talking right out of the box. I would argue that it isn't so much
for people who are "windows minded", but rather for those who are new
to linux & don't wish to dive in w/both feet into both a new OS &
trying to configure it for speech/braille/magnifier use as well. In
other words, its niche is for sight-impaired linux newbies. Having
said that, though, it has plenty of stuff for the advanced users to
play with as well. It does by default come up speaking using orca. I
would urge u that if u have questions about vinux to consider joining
the vinux mailing list. I can supply that address if you're
interested. They're a very supportive & friendly group--Tony, Mo,
Niber, Storm, Bill Cox, & others really do a good job putting it
together.

Another thing u might wish to consider is Knoppix-adrianne, which also
comes up speaking. GRML does not, but speakup is built in. It, too,
comes up in some sort of weird graphical menu by default. I believe u
press tab at the boot prompt, then write speakup, & at the end u write
speakup=synth. Consult the docs on that if you're interested.

Slackware can also be used as a talking distro. Of all the linux
distros, that's probably the lightest weight 1 of the lot.

U should really supply the specs for your machine so folks can be of
more assistance. Anyway, hth.

On 6/2/11, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,
normally I denote like such discussions, but I have a specific reason for
asking.
I have an IBM thinkpad 560f or so that I am wanting to convert to Linux.
it is my dos laptop right now, but I am about to upgrade to thinkpad 600x
for that purpose.
Everything I read about debian motivates me in that direction,  but I am
not sure which flavor is best for such a machine.  it has a fine external
9 pin port for a synthesizer, so I should? be fine on that front.
Still there is all this buzz about vinux so I thought I would get
advantages and disadvantages.  I admit the discussion on the speakup list
about a bug in the source distro for vinux has me wanting to skip
this...along with that distro being best for the windows minded smiles.
Thoughts on my goals?
Karen

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