Hi, I've used gramofile a time or two and though it's clumsy I did get it to work a bit. What I do when I get lost is put the braille display in attributes mode and then scan the screen until I feel a thump. :-) It would be nice if there were a way to have braille automatically track ncurses selections but I have no idea whether they're sufficiently standardized. Just got wavsilence from danplanet.com/wav. Thanks. -- Lee Maschmeyer <lee_Maschmeyer@xxxxxxxxx> "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." --Lewis Carroll _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list