It is possible to run the math program octave without emacs. Any text editor should do, so if you prefer Vim, or ed, ex, joe, pico, nano, or whatever, you should be good. You should be able to just run Octave at the command prompt, and work with it interactively. Alternatively, you can edit Octave programs in your favorite editor, and then just pipe them to Octave to run. If you're a vi/vim sorta fellow, there should be at least a syntax file for it, if not a macro suite. If not, it's not too hard to make some helper functions if needed. The install comes with a manual as well (in the doc/interpreter directory), so you can browse that--I prefer the HTML version of it, but they provide the TeX source, so you can roll your own if you need, as well as providing the PostScript version. If the octave site is back up (it was down when I composed this), you can find more at www.octave.org You can also find info (and downloads) straight from the GNU project at http://www.gnu.org/directory/GNU/octave.html If you have problems, the Octave project has download mirrors at http://ftp.eos.hokudai.ac.jp/pub/GNU/misc/octave http://ftp.math.uni-hamburg.de/pub/soft/math/octave http://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/software/octave http://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/SciEng/numanal/Octave http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/octave Have a blast. -tim _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list