How silly I am! I had put the off topic/trash thing on the top and the important one at the end of the message... Let's go with the important thing. Regarding the Gnome screen reader, I read on gnome-accessibility list that there is a program called gnopernicus, but it does not work as properly as Jaws, it is still under development. A colleague told me that there is a blind guy who's mail address is nath31@ifrance.com (I think I saw him some months ago here in blinux list), who installed Gnome with speech synthesizer by himself without any help. is it true? nath31 let me know, as this colleague told me Gnome2 with accessibility full support, a first release, will come out in February 2003. I wanted to test it for the Linux day, that was here in Italy on 23rd November 2002, but I did not have the possibility to test, they told me it was not ready yet. PS: for people coming from France or Belgium or French-speaking countries, my nickname is pronounced as the Irish writer Joyce. bye Jois PPS: is KDE also developing an accessibility support? PPPS: and does emacspeak really work using X too?