Hi: I'm sorry John but what kind of statement is this? What version of JAWS do you use at the moment? I love linux, I use lynx with speakup and brltty but I have no respect to the opinion like yours in regards to JAWS. If I built my opinion about linux based on Red Hat 5.1 I would never bother to play with this os, so if you worked with older release of JAWS you have no idea about capacities of its new release. It is very fine program for windows users as good as speakup or brltty is for linux and you don't have to like Fs but it is the reality which you or I can't change. There is no better alternative for windows environment than JAWS - ok, maybe window-eyes for some users and there is no point to spread unfair statements. With regards, Pawel. On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, John J. Boyer wrote: > Thomas, > To each his own. I find that I have much better access to the Web with > Lynx and BRLTTY. Maybe it's because Jaws is particularly bad with > Braille and the Web. But I'm not upgrading my Jaws, especially since > Freedom Scientific is such a bad company to do business with. > John > On Tue, 5 Feb > 2002, Thomas Stivers wrote: > > > I need to clear this up. I can, using windows access about 95% of the > > pages i come accross and when using lynx I notice that there are sections > > that are simply gone from sites because the scheem which is used to write > > them doesn't work and occasions where I simply cannot submit a form. I > > think the problem that many windows users have with forms is that they do > > not use context to determine what to put in forms verry well. Don't get me > > wrong, I really like using lynx, but I have to say that I can get things > > done on the www much more quickly with windows. I wish it weren't so and > > maybe when I get better at using lynx I will do better, but poor access to > > the web is one of the reasons I have had to keep windows on this computer. > > > > Thomas Stivers > > stivers_t@mail.utexas.edu > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@chartermi.net> > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:30 PM > > Subject: Re: Ecmascript and Lynx/Linux > > > > > > > Hi John and all: > > > the two main issues, as far as javascript and my Internet needs, are > > > shopping/banking sites and audio sites. From what I have heard from > > > windows users, I think you are right; they have their own problems with > > IE > > > and Jaws (or other screen readers for that matter). But I do know that > > my > > > friends using IE and jaws can access, for instance, the audio sites > > > through www.oneplace.com as I posted here a couple of days ago, and also > > > the sites from www.broadcast.com. They also usually appear to be able to > > > shop without hitting "unsupported url scheme" just as they get to the > > > final checkout! However, there is, as you point out, a blance here. > > Most > > > of my friends in windows do seem to have more difficulty with forms. I > > > also do have to say that, even in linux, having the braille display has > > > made filling out forms so much easier for me than it used tobe! > > > So this isn't an issue of either/or; I can't imagine myself dumping > > linux > > > or even lynx for that matter. But it would be nice to also be able to > > > access some of the things that blind users of windows can access and I > > > frankly can't. But I am very aware that having windows is no guarantee > > of > > > javascript accessibility either! > > > > > > -- > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >