Well, I suppose I've been working in a production environment for a bit too long. In that kind of environment it doesn't pay to try something and then find out you have something on the screen three days later which needed to be answered with yes rather than y and you didn't know that because the documentation no longer matched the actual software output or you hadn't been able to get into the documentation because that was on the disk too which still isn't installed. If someone had a project due in part of that time, that's a great way to get unemployed real fast and for cause at that. Whenever I've done dos installations in my more recent years I've tried to always have a talking installation disk and computer. With windows 98 that didn't work. Part of why Microsoft put windows narrator into windows 2000 was because of the problems I had installing win 98 at first. After awhile I got so much practice installing win 98 I could do it far easier. I haven't tried installing windows 2000 with narrator but a side benefit narrator has made possible was for nmci, our organization hasn't yet been able to get any of the professional screen readers through pop-in-the-box testing so the only way to have a talking nmci computer is by using windows narrator. I understand much of the other section 508 hardware and software is similarly held up too.