Jude, you use alt-f1 (not alt-1) to get to the first virtual console. Also, your point about man pages is especially true for gnu tools; they generally have man pages that state that they may be outdated and suggest that the user use the info documentation instead. When a program has Info documentation, it is generally more thorough than the manpage. --Michael Gorse / ICQ:22583968 / http://mgorse.home.dhs.org On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I think a file called learnsed.zip had come up for discussion over on > blind-l awhile ago. That file though it u used a dos version of sed did > lotss more to teach sed than the man pages do. Most unix man pages are > only reference pointers anyway intended to jog the already initiated > user's mind back to what they had learned earlier about a particular > subject. That in itself is part of both the charm and challenge of linux > and unix. Sometimes pople get lucky on fishing expeditions and sometimes > not. In any case hitting alt followed by a number other than 1 will open > up a different console and typing alt-1 gets you back to original login > console. Same technique in dr-dos or open-dos once taskmgr.exe is running > properly. >