a follow up sorry going on from last message can someone install brltty and speakup on the same system? that is so brltty could be turned off to run speakup or viseversa speakup so I could use some sort of document read for speed. thanks ian ======================================================== Standard disclaimer: Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. ========================================================