Jaws for dos from henter joice is free from there web sight not sure if you could make use of it thoe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Access (Was Re: ultrasonix ) > asap is very much like speakup. > > The demo will run for 20 minutes and then play you a commercial about > buying asap. Then it'll play the commercial again in 19 minutes, then in > 18, etc. Numbers may progres a bit faster--I don't recall. > On Sun, 14 Oct > 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > Does the asap demo pretty much work like speakup for editing? I suppose > > with ve, it's got cursor keys mixed up, so when I arrow around left and > > right fast enough it repeats the letter, but linux telnet with speakup > > edits like linux at physical console. VE still works when timed out, > > although you lose review mode and the like, but paying huge for dos support > > kind of sucks too. > > At 02:39 PM 10/14/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >Two suggestions: > > > > > >1.) Since you're using a demo of Vocal-Eyes, and not a registered > > >copy, why not go get the asap demo from http://www.microtalk.com? It works > > >well with PC Console apps without tweaks; > > > > > >2.) Try turning Revector checking on in Vocal-Eyes. Do: > > > Ctrl-Backslash to enter the VE Control Panel; > > > Arrow to Option 5 -- General > > > Arrow to Option 13 -- Advanced > > > Arrow to Option 3 -- Revector > > > > > >It will be off by default. Turn it on. It will tell you that you need to > > >reboot after using VE with this setting turned on, but that's not a > > >problem when running in a DOS Window under Windows because you can just > > >exit the DOS session and restart--something you probably mean to do > > >anyway. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Brent > > >Harding wrote: > > > > > >> I've been using cygwin a little while, I find it hard to edit files, the > > >> demo of vocal-eyes I have doesn't track the screen well, tried windows > > >> telnet, equally not good, but cygwin responds a little better. > > >> At 11:49 AM 10/13/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >> >On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Martin G. McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> I have been behind on reading Email this Summer, but I > > >> >> just read the discussion concerning FreeBSD. This is a little > > >> >> off-topic because FreeBSD isn't Linux, but it is open-source, > > >> >> free, and very robust. This last Summer, I installed FreeBSD-4.3 > > >> >> on four IBM Netfinity servers. It took me a bit to get the hang > > >> >> of the process, but it is extremely blind-friendly if your system > > >> >> has at least one serial port and that port functions as Com1. > > >> >Thanks a lot for your report; that's very interesting. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> FreeBSD is just another fine open-source choice we have. > > >> >> I think it has much better security by default than Linux does, > > >> >> but Linux can be quite secure if you take the time to make it > > >> >> that way. > > >> >Well, actually, let's not forget that linux is just the kernel; security > > >> >level varies greatly between the different distributions. Also, > > >> distributions > > >> >like Redhat who are trying to become more user friendly can't quite do so > > >> >without sacrificing security a little. I think the level of security by > > >> >default also does differ amongst the different BSD based OSes anyway. > > >> >> > > >> >> Anyway, I figured I would share my experiences with the > > >> >> rest of the list regarding FreeBSD. > > >> >Again, thank you for doing so. > > >> >> > > >> >> I probably should amend what I said at the first. If > > >> >> you have a Windows P.C. and JAWS or any of the other Windows > > >> >> screen readers, that will also work fine to communicate with the > > >> >> FreeBSD system's serial port. Your Windows terminal program > > >> >> should emulate a VT100 and the Comm port needs to be 9600, N, 8 > > >> >> and 1 in order to work with the remote console built in to the > > >> >> FreeBSD installation disk. > > >> >Hey, you've forgotten linux! :) You could easily use a linux box with > > >> minicom > > >> >to access the target machine... > > >> >> > > >> >> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > > >> >> OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Network Operations > > Group > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > > >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > > >> >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >_______________________________________________ > > >> > > > >> >Blinux-list@redhat.com > > >> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > >> > > > > > >-- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > >Chair, Accessibility SIG > > >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > >http://www.openebook.org > > > > > >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > > >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > > > >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > > >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > > >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > > > >Learn how to make accessible software at > > >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Will electronic books surpass print books? 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