Also, provox 7.05 or jaws for dos can be downloaded and used at no extra cost. http://www.mhonline.com/~chuckh/software.html should get there for provox. Source code for that one is available. One feature provox has I like alot I haven't found in jaws for dos is a clipboard. You run it with commands and it does the same stuff and a little more than windows clipboards can do. Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>