I'm rather certain I lost the patched red hat 7.0 kernel file for speakup. Right now, I have red hat 7.0 somewhat verbal on my computer with doubletalk synthesier. I just got in the mail red hat 7.2 boxed set so I'm also going to need an updated boot disk and the kernel patch file for doubletalk and red hat 7.2 so I can do the upgrade. I've been under the radar for quite a while since my linux system that was on a dial up account got hacked. linsniffer was put onto my computer since one of the server doors was open that oughtn't have been for single home users and the hacker got in that way. That sniffer has a web page at http://www.attrition.org. I don't know that dsl will be anymore secure, but I got me a modem and an account with verizon so am going to find out. The speakup mirror disk link for red hat 6.2 7.0 and 7.2 so far as I can tell is broken and generates an error 404 so I'm wondering if these files are available on the internet now. Last I heard Bill Hacker's ftp site was shut down so ftp.octothorp.org isn't an option now. Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>