On 04/19/2017 06:32 PM, Dragon ryu via arch-general wrote: > 2017/04/20 午前8:30 "ITwrx.org" <info@xxxxxxxxx>: > > i'm a little concerned about arch's overall health and i was wondering > if there's anything we can do about it. > > why am i concerned? > > Many users tested to demonstrate that PIE would not cause an undue > performance burden but it has still not been implemented due to dev's > lack of time. Now said dev is also resigning from packaging due to it > becoming a chore. Is PIE on the menu of the adopter of those packages? > > There are also many official packages that have been out of date for a > while. At least one of the devs seems to have too many packages to > maintain. Probably because packages were orphaned and someone had to > pick up the slack. There are probably many packages in aur that should > be moved to official if there were devs who had time to deal with them. > There are probably some bugs that need to be fixed too. Maybe we can > use some % of donations to pay a dev/devs? Can we modernize the > donations system? I sent a message to SPI's web dev email asking about > improvements to project's pages but i haven't heard back. > > IMHO, a general donate method doesn't cut it. Crowd funding should > demonstrate clearly that people will donate much more when they have > input and can see goals, progress, etc. Donors and devs should be able > to designate goals (devs could have approval/veto power) and/or donors > should be able to donate towards approved goals. It would be nice if we > could fund developers or maybe just a rewards pool where devs get some > appreciation money each month. Crypto currency could be an option. Devs > could choose what they want to receive. If nothing else, maybe we could > crypto tip individually or to an Arch address. Some way to make arch > development more practical for people. I know in the past arch devs have > said roughly that "he who does the dev makes the decisions" but maybe us > users can buy our way in just enough to influence the speed or goals of > the distro's dev? It doesn't seem like the current state of things can > keep up with threats, new features, etc. I think i am not alone in being > willing to pitch in money, when i can, to make it easier or more > worthwhile for devs, new or current. At least we could see what the > current funding levels for goals were so we would know if more needs to > be done. Some other distros have large corps that can foot the bill to > get things done. I'm sure Arch could use some help too, even if we > already have donation funds for infrastructure needs. > > thanks > > > > -- > Information Technology Works > https://ITwrx.org > @ITwrxorg > > Wait, actual question is about PIE? > If you find that package are outdated in community or extra, file a bug rep. > Why not do it? > no, PIE is just one of the examples i listed of symptoms of a larger issue that i thought might could be helped by paying devs and modernizing the donation system. why would i file a bug for an out of date package? i'm sure the developer is notified when a package is flagged? why should i pester them to update it?
