On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general > <arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 09/01/2016 06:00 PM, Diego Viola wrote: >>> No, I'm not saying that, please let's not make this personal, it's not. >>> >>> I'm also OK compiling my own bitcoin-qt or whatever, I'm just >>> concerned there are many outdated packages as of late, and what makes >>> Arch so special to many people is the rolling release part and up to >>> date packages. >> >> I am not trying to make this personal. :) >> It just sounds like you are unhappy with the way the TUs are handling >> things, and I am trying to highlight the fact that they are doing the >> best they can. >> >> What makes Arch so special, is not just the up-to-date packages, but the >> do-it-yourself mindset and the existence of the AUR. It is the fact that >> Arch users know how their system works, and usually know how to build >> their own packages as and when needed, to enhance their system beyond >> what the main repositories contain. As a result, we have the power to >> run experimental (*-git) versions of stuff, to update before the distro >> maintainers do, etc. >> And, there will always be out-of-date packages. >> >> But, there are ~15K packages in the repos, and 745 >> currently-flagged-out-of-date ones. >> (That includes things in testing, and duplicated i686/x86_64 >> arch-dependent packages... so the actual numbers will be different but >> the proportions should be similar and thus the point is the same.) >> >> Most packages in Arch are up to date. And the TUs work hard to keep >> things that way. And even though they sometimes fail, we are still more >> up to date than most other distros. We may sometimes be less special, >> but even then we are still pretty darn special. :) >> Being concerned that the system is slacking as a whole is probably not >> going to be an accurate assumption. The sky is not falling. >> >> And if it were... that only means Arch users are less interested these >> days in becoming TUs and helping to spread the load and keep things >> running smoothly. In which case, maybe "we" don't deserve to have Arch >> provided for our use anymore. >> Not that I think that is happening! >> >> ... >> >> The solution, in all cases, remains the same. Pitch in to help, acquire >> familiarity with the way Arch works, contribute your own AUR packages to >> learn the ropes, and then try to get someone to sponsor you to become a >> TU. (Or, whichever steps are applicable to each person's case.) >> >> Arch helps those who help themselves. >> >> -- >> Eli Schwartz > > I'm not unhappy with Arch, it is by far my favorite distribution. I'm > simply worried we're seeing more and more out of date packages, but > the reasons are understandable, maybe I should start relaying on the > AUR more. > > I'm simply curious if there is something we can do to help as users. > > Diego Seems like 0.13 has finally entered in community-testing. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community-testing/x86_64/bitcoin-qt/ Thanks, Diego
