On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes <prflr88@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 02/25/2015 04:33 PM, Pablo Lezaeta Reyes wrote: > >>>* Hi all, > *>>>>>>* Version 2.0.0 of the LightDM GTK greeter was released about week > ago. > *>>>* This release drops GTK2 support. > *>>>>*> That's ironic, Xfce recommend lightdm as DM for the gtk2 theme, > and the > *>*> upcomimng xfce-gtk-engine 3.1 drop gtk3 support. > *>*> > *> > >From what I saw, it didn't drop it. It just disabled it by default, which > >makes sense given that the desktop is GTK+2 only and they don't want to > >unnecessary pull in the gtk+3 dep only for the engine. > > > 3.1.0 taged http://git.xfce.org/xfce/gtk-xfce-engine/tree/NEWS > > verbatim from the news: "Gtk+-3 support has been stopped" > > I asume they keep it but they stop supporting so I think unles a patch > that fix all the themes emerge wldly, will be better drop xfce3-gtk-engine > or the entire xfce-gtk-engine, but that mostly prove that they not > support gtk3, drop gtk2-greeter will render without a wai to use a gtk2 > only > environment since lxdm is mostly no-more-maintained and is better have a > greeter > than a binary unsupported. > > Also xfce4 recomend greybird as theme for xfce if someone need a gtk2-gtk3 > theme > > > >>>* Therefore I propose to rename the current "lightdm-gtk3-greeter" into > *>>>* "lightdm-gtk-greeter" and drop the legacy "lightdm-gtk2-greeter" to > AUR. > *>*> looking oxygen keep the gtk3 in AUR gtk3 only themes tend to use gtk3 > and > *>*> gtk2 only thend to use gtk or gtk2, I will preffer keep the 3 in the > name. > *>>*> I could keep "lightdm-gtk2-greeter" around for a while in > [community] if > *>>*> some people want me to (I'm thinking people using MATE for example, > *>>*> but it's going towards GTK3 anyway), but keep in mind that you can > use > *>>>* LXDM instead if you really need a GTK2 display manager. > *>*> Or Xfce4 users, the upcoming xfce4 release is gtk2, and only after > that the > *>*> migration to gtk3 will start. > *>*> so a gtk2-greeter will be apreciated until xfce drop gtk2, and dont > forget > *>*> that LXDM is now presumably unmaintained or in low maintainance since > they > *>*> migrate to QT > *>>>>>*> If there aren't any objections by the end of the week, I'll > proceed with my > *>>*> proposal. > *>>>>*> Me > *>*> > *>>>* Cheers, > *>> > > tldr; I will go for keep gtk2-greeter for xfce4 user since lxdm is > semi-unmaintained and better a unmaintained theme that a > binary. > someone know if slim keep working with systemd, last time was buggy > or not start or not let thing start at all (like logind) > > -- > *Pablo Lezaeta* > LXDM is a different story because AFAIK it hasn't been officially abandonned, whereas the LightDM GTK2 greeter has, meaning I essentially become upstream if I continue to package it. Anyone is free to keep maintining it in AUR though, it won't be lost into oblivion. Also, as Ralf mentioned, even for a GTK2 desktop, the GTK3 greeter will work just fine if you can live with a few more megabytes. As for the change of name, we always try to follow upstream's naming, the GTK2 drop is a good opportunity to abide by that. FTR nearly all other distros have had a single "lightdm-gtk-greeter" package for a while now, providing only the GTK3 greeter even when GTK2 was still an option. Since a lot less people than I expected seem to object, I pushed 2.0.0 in [community-testing] for now, please give it a spin. Cheers, -- Maxime
