-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Looks like I hit quite a nail here. Let me describe my usecase. I was doing this on my personal box. If it was on a production server, I would have looked three times before doing an upgrade of any kind. I would refrain from having a rolling release distro on a server anyway, but that is another topic. Probably I should have looked at the pacman output more closely. And running a postgresql instance one should know that minor upgrades need a dump and restore. I also think there are people with less experience that are caught unprepared by such a situation. I know arch is for experienced people, but what's the harm of showing a _pre_ upgrade notice anyway? In the end, a distribution and a packaging system should make life easier not harder, right? I humbly propose that for the next postgresql release that needs manual intervention, there should be a _pre_ upgrade notice, clearly saying that manual intervention is needed. It doesn't look like pacman provides this capability though or does it? Regards, Georg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUyhJVAAoJELvxnEIeMg5lGMIIAIwLJSSiBuD5RduqZH9VkaYw YdFhg+L5zVyR3QPx1Hw3F4l0xS5QoGvQG3aZiF14lQhvf4ANlkLahJpZBMa4MRpM eZzJVpSNTNiLDXqpycxn1dD8N2yjvrT4j7Qa/dmropArHdWn14Xy8lg4Q1lBW2vN heLSZgIKL90vd+I3bJFOCxoU92w5tzn9L65Wl3qxW/exLcka/VMVXknp5NOMD0tb 0xXB615r9IOzcMgfaxRDMcuzx5doBS/e/ICNlShG52ZcAPmhCBVAfeHzwQRIIerT D+DCCHl1HQTgzPBIcfxmerlOTmIN4ZWbjIS0Tyj36QFqD2Zv5xYwfa+znOEExDQ= =TNjm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----