On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:19:31 +0200 Tobias Frilling <tobias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/27/2012 12:43 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > > And we are back... > > Sir, you've got some yarbles. > IMHO the cause of all these flaming is that arch-general is too, > well, general. What about if we would split this list up into a list > for technical questions (e.g. arch-support) and a more philosophical, > rambling one (e.g. arch-discussion), so that everyone could choose > his/her own poison? > > P.S.: This is definitely a help request to make the make the arch > mailing lists a happy place again ;-) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQZERPAAoJENVg3RpC7ZC86KAQAKT7ST6PgVX+ColdBmpttD4/ > auwihWnNJ7S8I7BRHGUHV0cXi8puM9z9s1zGCV22NSv+i6ibnvGMWMRfs8/YqR5D > +botAqt7/6/HEIDqbGq2f63sY5G8Y5mnmLYDRiwZDwo8XMoPNbVkaHxJC6PNkc7Y > FPsHYDe83bMIBRl3u0CMV1zs/sMVyBJPOFAuvAlUebW0FtQVbdLuPu15i2tTIGIv > SVnc+bdY5n68hm22ybQG+yPwcQnuq8JOUyFrckEIFkHBmhFLkgUxs3hm+SNUndnL > kWubGUUMU/L48zAZJGdfoQ9owod9PIBaF9kVbz+ORcrhsulqnFGzkwOlpg7F039X > FxBPtgMfMe2tif7UEcsqxX1w1hiXDxSPNyE2EUMjA+6mmVtyHog00DicDWpPbL9l > 2/+O9DHoaoI4sL204H6EayFf1ZpR1Y6aQpxjH7OWDNgaRem/+Sux0HkbLjv90EWt > Qre4I5YZcb7837Fw74uV/fsaL9Ee5NHOBR9Lu5NG8lm7J38QmWJyRlcanaGTFZCZ > lrXVvk++Ss1e+o+LsXEpxcX40j+EjsMbNLfLifsQD+NaknuDXWpDvUzsrDqiij6s > Eb+xbCq/qAy55xxhwT2UFdl8L9ALhHUVB24hGXdAtjzi1poH0fmAtntI/RVtGb/D > gsgmX61jX6yFJIL8HkM8 > =jKI5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Imo it's not a problem that arch-general has a wide topic. You have to remember that it actually worked well for years, it's really only in the last 6-12 months or so that arch-general have really started to go downhill. Here is how it goes (in my eyes) 1) community is small, S/N ratio is awesome, discussions are generally "friendly" 2) community starts growing fast, and brings with it a lower S/N ratio 3) more flame-wars etc starts to happen, causing some of the "good" people to leave. S/N ratio gets even worse. 4) almost none of the devs nor old-timers and the more friendly/knowledgeable people are left. S/N goes to hell, bad press happens because of it, just increasing the downward spiral. I can only see two things that can really help slow down/stop/revert the spiral: 1) Moderation. Get rid of the serial trollers/flamers 2) Get more devs and "good" people to join and be active. Where the second point probably is the most important.
