The 27/09/12, Tobias Frilling wrote: > IMHO the cause of all these flaming is that arch-general is too, well, general. The problem is not that arch-general is the wrong place for the latter threads. Users are correct to think such discussion should happen here. The problem is that maintainers, developers and advanced users want quality and constructive discussions. But this kind of contribution should happen on the archlinux-dev mailing list which is currently not possible because it's _closed_. The problem is that the dev list should be *open* to subscriptions. Trolling naturally does not happen in such list ― or die very fast ― because of the direct relationship of the discussions with the code and the maintenance jobs. Instead of fragmenting more the mailing lists with the hope of putting poor contributions out of place for advanced users, let enter the technical oriented users into the dev mailing list. Also, this would not let maintainers break from the constructive users with massive unsubscriptions from here. BTW, I find it's a shame that advanced users with technical and valid messages have to *fork* a thread from the dev list to the general list (or post a new request to the general list) with the *hope* that a maintainer/developer catch the reply in the other public mailing list. And no, I don't find requesting in private is a solution, either. The problem is not at the general mailing list but at the dev mailing list side. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
