On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:26:32 -0500 "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 09/18/2012 03:53 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:47:26 -0400 (EDT) > > Jude DaShiell<jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> >Whenever does an install of archlinux, they also do a big update > >> >so it's safe to say I got nailed by this problem too. I'm not > >> >going to dismiss out of hand the probability that util-linux is > >> >at fault, but when I tried the installs this past weekend I > >> >suspected mkinitcpio or perhaps syslinux-install_update might be > >> >at fault. However if in this update process neither of those > >> >utilities were used, then both of them are cleared. It seems > >> >when util-linux finishes running after install or update it fails > >> >to set the sticky bits on partitions and lesser components in the > >> >linux file system at least in ext4 which is what I used to try > >> >the installs this past weekend in line with the installation > >> >guide on the archlinux wiki. > > HUmmmm you got me wondering now that could well be both partitions > > that have the problem are ext4 why i did not change them to my more > > normal XFS i dont know .. > > > > I may have to back a lot up and rebuild but this time i will let my > > normal hate of the entire EXT file system rule and go XFS never been > > let down there .. > > > > Pete . > > > > > > Pete, > > I have run Arch on several filesystems and I've been lucky I > guess. Currently on this box, I have ext3, ext4 and reiser (old SuSE > 10.0 partition). This box has been running since mid-2009 and updates > are usually weekly (sometimes I go a couple of weeks if I can't risk > a break due to workload) I have not had any of the mount ro weirdness > even after several multi-gigabyte updates. The current partitions I > have are: > > /dev/sdc5 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) > /dev/sdc7 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) > /dev/sda2 on /mnt/pv type reiserfs (rw,relatime) > /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/win type fuseblk > (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096) > > I don't know what is doing it in your case, but it seems like we > should be able to figure out where mount ro/rw logic for the resides > (I picture something like the following buried somewhere): > > if [conditional]; then > mount -o rw [whatever] > else > mount -o ro [whatever] > fi > > I suspect this may be complicated by the fact that mounting (or > remounting) takes place in several different places/processes during > the boot. Anybody familiar with this off-hand or any idea where Pete > might look to rule-in or rule-out the different parts of boot that > could effect this? Sorry I don't have more, I just haven't had the > need to dissect the boot mount process to that level before... > > I guess you are just lucky :) > Hi David yes i am torn right now between it being either SATA related or ext4 related both of which have caused me untold problems before i have had 2 previous SATA drives die because of the insult of a data connection causing crossed connections and ext4 several problems in the old Suse days . The laptop running exactly the same stuff (they are mirrors of each other) but on XFS and IDE is perfect I see a reinstall on the horizon worst luck Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.5.3-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Aug 26 09:14:51 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux