On Aug 31, 2012 6:32 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" <ma1l1ists@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:51 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > > > > And this is yet another example how initscripts are broken. > > > > I had a friend whose GDM was not coming up because it > > > > was starting too fast after dbus. As a last resort we rearranged > > > > the DAEMONS and moved gdm as the last daemon (after NM etc) > > > > and it magically started to work. > > Isn't it more likely that dbus and GDM are broken and it should be > started last anyway, there's no magic. Sounds like a dbus bug. That said, with systemd's socket activation, this bug (if it is a bug,i never heard of it before), and many like it, would no longer be a problem. > > You probably use the inittab method [...] > Will this be an issue for him if he switches to full systemd as it has > removed inittab Yes, inittab is ignored. It would be trivial to add support for it via a generator, but I don't know of any reason to. We never really used inittab in Arch. systemd's unit files are essentially a generalisation of inittab, so mimicking it is straight forward. Cheers, Tom