On 31/08/12 20:44, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >>> IIUC the OP got issues regarding to networkmanager, while not switching >>> to systemd. >> >> For the people not reading the forums: it seems the problem was with >> the order of daemons in rc.conf, and should be unrelated to systemd. >> For people not using systemd, this change should really not have any >> effect at all (you'll just have some extra unused files around). > > While the cause has been explained I think we are missing the Why or is > it How. > > If dbus was out of order how come it worked under initscripts? Is > it because initscripts checks the list and starts dbus early in any case > and the init script compatibility over-rid systemds similar behaviour? > He is not using systemd at all... So the upgrade of systemd is a red-herring here. Allan