On 28 August 2012 11:05, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky <l.jirkovsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such >> apps work without systemd. > > So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional > at compile-time rather than at run-time (which would have been ideal, > and not much more difficult to code). That means our packages cannot > support both scenarios at the same time. That's why I'm think about maintaining such packages in community. > As to Ubuntu, remember that they lag quite far behind our packages, so > while they probably will produce patches, don't expect it to happen in > time for it to help us. Notice for instance that Ubuntu supposedly > took over consolekit, but no release has happened and without > backporting patches from git our consolekit package would be > completely broken. > > In short: avoiding systemd will be a lot of work, and you will be more > or less alone in doing it. > > -t Unless there's going to be some major rewrite of the affected packages in the meantime I think I'll be able to handle that. During the years I'm using OSS, I learned one thing: If no one else wants to do something, you must do it yourself. Lukas
