On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky <l.jirkovsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm pretty sure at least Ubuntu will keep patches to make some of such > apps work without systemd. So far we see that whenever systemd is made optional, it is optional at compile-time rather than at run-time (which would have been ideal, and not much more difficult to code). That means our packages cannot support both scenarios at the same time. As to Ubuntu, remember that they lag quite far behind our packages, so while they probably will produce patches, don't expect it to happen in time for it to help us. Notice for instance that Ubuntu supposedly took over consolekit, but no release has happened and without backporting patches from git our consolekit package would be completely broken. In short: avoiding systemd will be a lot of work, and you will be more or less alone in doing it. -t
