> > > > Please, refrain from just flaming. If you want help, ask for it. > > Otherwise, just shut up. > > > +1 -1 If anyone started the flaming it was those ignoring his main arguments and pointlessly responding. A recurring theme. He may have responded to those rediculous arguments in annoyance when he shouldn't have and which is easily done. Who knows maybe RedHat will use upstart after it has a more reliable interface added in a years time. It certainly wouldn't fragment the Linux and Unix communities and efforts so much. Be aware Felipe that very few developers have made any comment on the subject publically and the few that have shows devs on both sides of the argument. Users have supposedly swaded the argument through attrition but I don't believe this for one second. I don't know how devs thought that saying arguing against systemd serves us right in getting systemd would help quieten the list down but anyway. Tom has made his decision and at the end of the day unless someone takes up his initscript mantle or switches to another init like openrc and gets the packagers or users to cooperate then we are stuck maintaining our own startups or switching. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________