On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Heiko Baums <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have the impression that you are one of those systemd fanboys, and > just don't want to hear that systemd and PA have a lot of serious > issues. Issues, serious or otherwise, belong in the bug-tracker. We have surprisingly few systemd/pulseaudio bugs open, considering all the noise they create on the ML. >> Why don't you just delete the things you don't want? > > Why are those things, which I don't need and want, installed? Why > am I forced to have this systemd stuff installed? And what, if I delete > them manually? Shall I always delete them again and again after every > system update? Sorry, that's not the way to go. Sorry, I didn't realise you were being serious. Of course you shouldn't delete them. If you don't use systemd they have no effect, and take hardly no space. > Like I said before, if you would support systemd, sytemd-tools and > everything else related to systemd totally optional, and keep > initscripts pure initscripts without any systemd stuff like it was > before, I would say nothing. But since you really force the users to > install this systemd stuff, you will have to live with such comments, > and not only from me, as you should know. I don't force anyone to do anything. If you see flaws in anything I do, then provide review, patches or bug reports. If you don't like the direction I'm taking initscripts in, then fork it and provide your competing version. To be clear: it has always been my plan to make initscripts and systemd as close to each other as possible and share as much code as possible. I strongly believe this is the right thing to do. If you disagree, then I think your time is better spent at coding a replacement rather than at whining. -t